whats up with the saturn hexagon everyone? don't say hyperdimensional geometry.
honestly, no one really knows why its a hexagon.
I dunno, whats up with those glass tubes on mars?
>>12507everyone knows there's a highly technological society up there, those tubes are part of their network of canals
>>12507Looks like a sideways crotchshot of a really fat chick.
>>12507
Looks like a sideways crotchshot of a really fat chick.
>>12521lol thats what i thought too.
so i have have been hearing things that are really conflicting, and affect me greatly. someone over on /high/ has been going on and on for a week or so about the end beginning. he seems to have quite a bit of info to back him up. the main thing hes saying is that some kind of solar EMC is going to hit earth tomorrow causing a universal blackout and many major earthquakes. i am high and half scared.
Nothing will happen. Don't listen to assholes. Smoke more.
what he is talking about is a supposed CME (coronal mass ejection) that was caused by the collision of two comets with our sun, occurring on march 12. the guy has no good sources of info.just ignore him.
what he is talking about is a supposed CME (coronal mass ejection) that was caused by the collision of two comets with our sun, occurring on march 12.
the guy has no good sources of info.
just ignore him.
hes been making me feel uneasy aswell op
A coronal mass ejection requires a lot more effort than any comet can produce.There's no fucking way for it to cause earthquakes, it can in very exceptional circumstances(twice a millenia or so) be very powerful in which case they are devastating for electronics.However, we have satellites which monitor the sun 24/7, and as a CME is made up of massive particles we'll see it several hours before the particles reach earth, meaning that public warnings and adequate precautions can be taken. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
A coronal mass ejection requires a lot more effort than any comet can produce.
There's no fucking way for it to cause earthquakes, it can in very exceptional circumstances(twice a millenia or so) be very powerful in which case they are devastating for electronics.
However, we have satellites which monitor the sun 24/7, and as a CME is made up of massive particles we'll see it several hours before the particles reach earth, meaning that public warnings and adequate precautions can be taken.
I just listened to the new gorillaz album and I've been wondering:what if music, art and culture is the way of aliens communicating with us?what if we're being manipulated by aliens from the depths of space with much better technology than us?
>>12381 no, what he is saying is that we can be comparable with the computer program able to detect what makes up its programing, but not able to fully comprehend it. this is because the way the program experiences reality is without human senses, when human senses are required to create it and read the programing. just as even though we know DNA makes up our being, our comprehension of it could be very far off from reality because we lack the comprehension of reality an entity could use to create us, or the universe.
"So I hear your girlfriend turned you on to sage francis, but not every Emcee comes from the same planet." - Dezmatic
You're wrong.The new album sucked.
wouldn't it be more convenient to just send us a message or something?
>>12517See:>>12327The whole point is that as humans we couldn't conceive such a message except through seeing it's results.
>>12517
See:
>>12327
The whole point is that as humans we couldn't conceive such a message except through seeing it's results.
fellow space niggers, do you ever wish you could just float through the Orion nebula and just be at one with the universe and cosmos?I feel like that if I could, that's all I would do, smoke space blunts whilst floating through Orion with Mr. Sagan.
fellow space niggers, do you ever wish you could just float through the Orion nebula and just be at one with the universe and cosmos?
I feel like that if I could, that's all I would do, smoke space blunts whilst floating through Orion with Mr. Sagan.
>>12388uh, it's where we found out how stars formed. in fact, my grandfather identified the first images from the telescope he basically created and named the disk that forms around the stars proplyds.
>>12388
uh, it's where we found out how stars formed. in fact, my grandfather identified the first images from the telescope he basically created and named the disk that forms around the stars proplyds.
>>12464To quote Carl Sagan, "We have always been travellers."Not only have we been orbiting the Sun, but the Sun in its ring of the Milky Way and the Milky Way moving through it's supercluster.We can use that attitude and enjoy it, because we are all apart of the cosmos.
>>12464
To quote Carl Sagan, "We have always been travellers."
Not only have we been orbiting the Sun, but the Sun in its ring of the Milky Way and the Milky Way moving through it's supercluster.
We can use that attitude and enjoy it, because we are all apart of the cosmos.
>>12386op i tell people all the time in a perfect world all i would do would be zip around in a space ship with my friends, food, and a hydro setup, and just check out cool planets and nebulae all the time
>>12386
op i tell people all the time in a perfect world all i would do would be zip around in a space ship with my friends, food, and a hydro setup, and just check out cool planets and nebulae all the time
i would get insanely high and go through a black holethat would be an experience
it's ok, the orion nebula will be on street view soon
Sup /sagan/, quick question:Is the universe infinite? Cheers x
Sup /sagan/, quick question:
Is the universe infinite?
Cheers x
>>12438Ye exactly. One thing that irritates me about all this though, how do we distinguish between there being one universe and there being many? If the universe encapsulates everything then surely there can only be one, even if it does encapsulate smaller "universes" and other dimensions. Isn't the term omniverse a bit self-contradictory?
>>12438
Ye exactly. One thing that irritates me about all this though, how do we distinguish between there being one universe and there being many? If the universe encapsulates everything then surely there can only be one, even if it does encapsulate smaller "universes" and other dimensions. Isn't the term omniverse a bit self-contradictory?
Actually ignore the last post, I just wikipedia'd it and now know the difference.
Hi guys im a senior astronomy major, and I specialize in Cosmology.First of all physics is about measuring things. If something can't be measured then thats not physics. Something of infinite size can't be measured so physics can't ever REALLY tell us if the Universe is infinite or not. But, postulating the size of the Universe is pretty interesting.In any case, taking the big bang as the initial start of the Universe, at any time you can define the radius of the Universe as the radius light could have traveled since the big bang, since nothing could have gone farther than light you can describe this Universe in terms of this size because everything that consists of the Universe is INSIDE this radius, so thats the size of the Universe. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hi guys im a senior astronomy major, and I specialize in Cosmology.
First of all physics is about measuring things. If something can't be measured then thats not physics. Something of infinite size can't be measured so physics can't ever REALLY tell us if the Universe is infinite or not. But, postulating the size of the Universe is pretty interesting.
In any case, taking the big bang as the initial start of the Universe, at any time you can define the radius of the Universe as the radius light could have traveled since the big bang, since nothing could have gone farther than light you can describe this Universe in terms of this size because everything that consists of the Universe is INSIDE this radius, so thats the size of the Universe.
>taking the big bang as the initial start of the Universe, at any time you can define the radius of the Universe as the radius light could have traveled since the big bang.What about inflation? The expansion of space can exceed the speed of light (and it is generally considered to have done precisely this).So the universe could have inflated to an absolutely gargantuan size, but due to the limit of lightspeed we'd only see a tiny corner of it.And now, my personal view: Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>taking the big bang as the initial start of the Universe, at any time you can define the radius of the Universe as the radius light could have traveled since the big bang.
What about inflation? The expansion of space can exceed the speed of light (and it is generally considered to have done precisely this).
So the universe could have inflated to an absolutely gargantuan size, but due to the limit of lightspeed we'd only see a tiny corner of it.
And now, my personal view:
>>12409well yeah we're made out of small spinning balls that are made out of more even smaller spinning balls that are made out of more even smaller spinning balls etceveryone knows that
so why havent we gotten samples of moon rock and any sort of atmosphere that the moon may have and tried growing plants here on earth in a controlled environment? or would setting that up be too hard to accomplish?
apollo 11 brought back several dozen pounds of moon rock.and the moon has no atmosphere.im not too sure what you're getting at, but if you're trying to suggest that we should replicate a lunar environment on earth and try to grow plants in it, its just wrong in theory, for several reasons.one is that the lunar surface is both intensely hot in the sun and intensely cold in the shade, far too hot and cold for liquid water to exist.there are numerous reasons no plants could survive on the moon, but i dont really feel like going on about it right now..
apollo 11 brought back several dozen pounds of moon rock.and the moon has no atmosphere.
im not too sure what you're getting at, but if you're trying to suggest that we should replicate a lunar environment on earth and try to grow plants in it, its just wrong in theory, for several reasons.one is that the lunar surface is both intensely hot in the sun and intensely cold in the shade, far too hot and cold for liquid water to exist.there are numerous reasons no plants could survive on the moon, but i dont really feel like going on about it right now..
I think he means try and set up an artificial greenhouse in lunar conditions. Amirite?
Suuuuup /sagan/So, I was high as fuck, and got to wonder about sentient extraterrestrial life.A lot of scientists say they won't look like us, right? Well, I think that isn't necessarily true. Think about the following (and they are in no specific order):Our brains probably evolved to fit tool usage, and even if they didn't, a sentient species with no way to manipulate objects wouldn't get very far. So we can deduct they will probably have evolved complex body parts to manipulate tools, like our hands. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Suuuuup /sagan/
So, I was high as fuck, and got to wonder about sentient extraterrestrial life.
A lot of scientists say they won't look like us, right? Well, I think that isn't necessarily true. Think about the following (and they are in no specific order):
>>12486>We don't know they will have mouths, not everything on earth eats with a mouthWell just about EVERYTHING on earth has a mouth. Granted there are a few species that do not use mouths the only one I can think of are some starfishes which encompasses there prey with there stomach, but really mouths are so common on this plant because they work pretty dam well. What form of eating or at least getting in nutrients do you think would really work other then having a mouth?I really can't think of anything
>>12486
>We don't know they will have mouths, not everything on earth eats with a mouth
Well just about EVERYTHING on earth has a mouth. Granted there are a few species that do not use mouths the only one I can think of are some starfishes which encompasses there prey with there stomach, but really mouths are so common on this plant because they work pretty dam well. What form of eating or at least getting in nutrients do you think would really work other then having a mouth?I really can't think of anything
>>12492I guess it depends how specific you are with what a mouth is. There's weird shit, like using a proboscis like some worms and all butterflies, but as far as nutrients etc goes there's ways of getting them from sunlight and your atmosphere/environment like photosynthesis. I can imagine creatures like the floaters Sagan talks about could draw in nutrients from the organic molecules in the gasses of there atmosphere. How any alien did such a thing would probably not be using anything you or I would recognize as a mouth.
we'll be able to communicate them. the way our mind is dictated to solve problems does not have very many alternatives.
>>12492Starfish have a mouth. They can turn their stoumache inside-out for prey that is too large. There are some internal parasitic species of flatworms that don't have a mouth since they live next to tissue and absorb nutrients with their skin.Try studying the earth's animal biodiversity and anatomy, you will be able to see all the different ways animals have managed to cope with differences in environments.>A lot of scientists say they won't look like us, right? Well, I think that isn't necessarily true. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>12492Starfish have a mouth. They can turn their stoumache inside-out for prey that is too large. There are some internal parasitic species of flatworms that don't have a mouth since they live next to tissue and absorb nutrients with their skin.
Try studying the earth's animal biodiversity and anatomy, you will be able to see all the different ways animals have managed to cope with differences in environments.
>A lot of scientists say they won't look like us, right? Well, I think that isn't necessarily true.
the only similarities between humans and any "smart" sentient life would be that we both probably have no natural organs for survival other than our brain. That is we don't have horns, instead we relied on increasing brain size to invent spears and thus overcome not having defenses. They would most likely be similar if they are intelligent (needing a big brain). Other than that they will probably be unimaginably different. Also they would probably be apex predators as we are.
BOINC is a program that uses your idle computer to crunch numbers for the benefit of scientific and/or humanitarian efforts. You (and any teams you are on) receive credits for the amount of work your computer does, so feel free to join the 420chan team and attach to any projects that interest you. We've already got a sizable team and are in the 98th percentile for total accumulated credit, which is great considering our team is only three months old.Download BOINC here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.phpPic related: SETI@home, the most popular of our teams.
BOINC is a program that uses your idle computer to crunch numbers for the benefit of scientific and/or humanitarian efforts. You (and any teams you are on) receive credits for the amount of work your computer does, so feel free to join the 420chan team and attach to any projects that interest you. We've already got a sizable team and are in the 98th percentile for total accumulated credit, which is great considering our team is only three months old.
Download BOINC here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php
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wtfi complete a task for seti@home and it sends, then i get a new task, and i still have 0 credits :(
>>12410You'll get your credit when the server updates your stats. It's usually once a day or so.
>>12410
You'll get your credit when the server updates your stats. It's usually once a day or so.
>>12410What would be a huge bummer is if you complete a task and the result is invalid. But that probably wont happen
>>12410My SETI hasn't been able to upload results for nearly 2 days now. I have like 10 finished projects waiting to be uploaded.. hope they get the servers back up soon =\
Gentlemen, we will reach 10M credits on the 20th. I issue you this challenge: reach 20M credits by 4/20. Our kung fu is great and we can do it if we put our shoulder to the wheel.
Even if we master light-speed or near light-speed travel, humans will never leave the galaxy. Ever.Some might argue that the galaxy is a big enough playground; that wanting to leave is greedy. They say that we'll eventually place massive observatories on the edges of the Milky Way and learn as much about other galaxies as possible without visiting.I disagree; I say that it's natural for us to want to explore everything and everywhere and I think it's a tragedy that the Milky Way is the most we'll ever have. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Even if we master light-speed or near light-speed travel, humans will never leave the galaxy. Ever.
Some might argue that the galaxy is a big enough playground; that wanting to leave is greedy. They say that we'll eventually place massive observatories on the edges of the Milky Way and learn as much about other galaxies as possible without visiting.
I disagree; I say that it's natural for us to want to explore everything and everywhere and I think it's a tragedy that the Milky Way is the most we'll ever have.
>>12456WE ARE THE BOR - ERR...HUMANS
>>12459 it has nothing to do with materialism. Once the absolute bottom limit for the size of a transistor is met, the only way to increase processing power and (therefor intelligence), is to build larger and larger "computers". It is then conceivable that we will become so advanced that will will actually begin the "Waking up of the Universe" ie. converting "dead" normal matter into "living" computational substrate matter capable of supporting us. i suggest you read the part about Epoch 6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_is_Near#Chapter_One:_The_Six_Epochs
>>12459 it has nothing to do with materialism. Once the absolute bottom limit for the size of a transistor is met, the only way to increase processing power and (therefor intelligence), is to build larger and larger "computers". It is then conceivable that we will become so advanced that will will actually begin the "Waking up of the Universe" ie. converting "dead" normal matter into "living" computational substrate matter capable of supporting us.
i suggest you read the part about Epoch 6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_is_Near#Chapter_One:_The_Six_Epochs
nah we'd be able to leave the galaxy eventually. it's all a matter of getting enough ships so that we'd ensure it to occur. heck, even if we don't ever develop FTL travel, we could colonize most of the galaxy or make our presence universally known in a few hundred million years. which reminds me, what's y'all's take on fermi's paradox?
> make our presence universally known in a few hundred million years.W-what?
> make our presence universally known in a few hundred million years.
W-what?
>>12479My point is that what for would we want planet sized computers for? Our transistor densities, provided we could build 3d chips, are already at the same density of computation per volume as the human brain is. And we are quite far from the smallest transistor possible. Once we reach the smallest possible transistor and build a 3d chip the size of a skyscraper or so of it we could simulate not just all human brains on earth, but all animal brains on earth, build another one and you can simulate a whole earth for each simulated individual, but what's the fucking point of building billions of trillions of times more of these computational units? They won't be contributing anything more after a certain point, if for no other reason that in an high speed computer simulation it will be equivalent of waiting 10 years for an answer when you ping your neighbour that's a few million kms away. Obviously if we decide that having a lot of isolated and separate instances doing essentially precisely the same thing all over the universe then OK, we'll go ahead and convert everything, to me however it doesn't make sense, we might as well build giant dicks of everything.
>>12479My point is that what for would we want planet sized computers for? Our transistor densities, provided we could build 3d chips, are already at the same density of computation per volume as the human brain is. And we are quite far from the smallest transistor possible. Once we reach the smallest possible transistor and build a 3d chip the size of a skyscraper or so of it we could simulate not just all human brains on earth, but all animal brains on earth, build another one and you can simulate a whole earth for each simulated individual, but what's the fucking point of building billions of trillions of times more of these computational units?
They won't be contributing anything more after a certain point, if for no other reason that in an high speed computer simulation it will be equivalent of waiting 10 years for an answer when you ping your neighbour that's a few million kms away. Obviously if we decide that having a lot of isolated and separate instances doing essentially precisely the same thing all over the universe then OK, we'll go ahead and convert everything, to me however it doesn't make sense, we might as well build giant dicks of everything.
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SPACE PARTAAAAY!
AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE /SAGAN/'S SPACE PARTAAYS
bowies in space
PARTY HARDIN SPACEPARTY HARD PARTY HARDPARTY HARD PARTY HARDPARTY HARD PARTY HARD
DICKS EVERYWHERE
anyone else watch NASA TV and see globiehe be trippin balls imo
Hey /sagan/ does anyone here have a good quality pic of the bridge of the Spaceship of the Imagination?
ggod question.. bump..
bump for that with the captain present.
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