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/sagan/ - Space Niggers
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778699 No.5828 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

Space- fuck yea!

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>> No.5884 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5829

This is the most awesome picture I've ever seen. It's like breaking through the invisible walls at the end of the universe and entering a bridge between dimensions, or even Heaven itself.

Thank you so much :')

>> No.5897 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5875
There's no need to mess with the brain.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/colortherapy/

>At first, the two monkeys behaved no differently than before. Though quick to earn a grape juice reward by picking out blue and yellow dots from a background of gray dots on a computer screen, they banged the screen randomly when presented with green or red dots.
>But after five months, something clicked. The monkeys picked out red and green, again and again. At the biological level, Neitz can’t say precisely what happened — the monkeys, named Sam and Dalton, are alive and healthy, their brains unscanned and undissected — but their actions left no doubt.
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>>5897

That is very pleasing news :)

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>>5858
There's a bit of a problem with increasing the width of the spectrum: Your eyes and the optic elements they are made of are opaque or provide incorrect(or no) refraction to wavelengths much distant from the visible light spectrum.

So seeing wider spectras would require not just improved eyes, but entirely new, additional eyes.

This of course doesn't mean you can't improve the vision, we have three different photopigments and two light sensitive cell types only: this could be greatly increased in numerous ways to give high resolution vibrant color vision, and why not polarization detection too while at it.

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>>5897
If you mess with the brain and nervous system however you could achive so much more:
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/mf_optigenetics/all/1

The two way communication mentioned at the end of the article can provide enormous benefits to not just pathological conditions but normal cognition as well.

We could speed up the general signal conduction: nerve fibers are embarassingly slow conductors compared to fiber optics, and there's quite a lot of white fiber tracts in the brain, not to mention the fibers from the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system.

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138017 No.5399 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

It's Space Tuesday on The Science Channel.
Space themed documentaries from 5:00pm to 2:00am.
Starts in an hour with Carl Sagan's Cosmos - Encyclopedia Galactica.
Enjoy.

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>> No.5820 Report Ban Global Ban
>Space is filled with a network of Worm holes. You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.
>You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.
> els in space, or so
> els
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>> No.5824 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5780
A brand new glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise. A morning of 600 billion suns, the rising of the milky way.

>> No.5834 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5824
The cosmos is full beyond measure of elegant truths of exquisite interrelationships of the awesome machinery of nature.

>> No.5840 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5820

A typo is a little different from completely misquoting someone.

You probably thought you were clever, eh? You should get back to /weed/.

>> No.5904 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5780
Jews, Americans and towelheads will kill us all long before that.



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248566 No.5604 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

Who else here fucking loves Earth? I may be partial and all, yu know being an inhabitant and everything. But how often do you consider the fact that we are on a giant rotating rock, orbiting a colossal constant hydrogen explosion?

Shit blows my mind.

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>> No.5883 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5794

>if Jupiter got it first, or the sun

That is seriously not as likely as you seem to think. Jupiter and the sun are not protecting us from anything.

>> No.5889 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5883
Maybe not only those 2 bodies, but we have a moon which has tons of impact craters, Mars has them, Any planet we've seen has them. Earth has so many fewer. If it was ONLY earth floating around, we would get hit all the time.

>> No.5894 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5889
Uh... Earth has few craters not because we aren't hit just like other planets, but because EROSION gets rid of them within a few hundred million years.

>> No.5898 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5894
That and most of our surface is water.

>> No.5902 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5898
or covered by vegetation, or huge piles of erosion byproducts(aka sand).

Not to mention our atmosphere acts as a filter for the smaller rocks. Venus, lacking moons but having an atmosphere in which styrofoam floats, in addition to volcanic activity is quite craterfree too. Not that you see the surface that often, unless you use radar:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Venus_globe.jpg



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16269 No.5359 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

So what if a galaxy is an atom?

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>> No.5855 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5845

>Besides, particules, the actual elementary particules are all dimentionless, they can't scrink since they do not have a size to begin with.

But you know they have an area of affect which can change. If the area changes but the particle doesn't, it would give you a clue such as "this atom is shrinking" bur for that you'd be referencing the particle to the atom. Since the building blocks themselves have no dimension, there's no reference. You would not know.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDC3u8k02c

simpsons did it.

>> No.5880 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5855
Since on a whole rests upone one asumption, an axiome, or a dogma if you will:
Physical proprieties are unchanged, unaffected by a translation in time and/or space.
Meaning that no matter "where" or "when" you are, the basic physical proprietes are the same: The speed of light was the same in the adromedia galaxie 3 billion years ago than it is in our laboratories today.
If you do not accept that axiom, you have to grounds upon which any reasoning can be made, nor can you make any falsifiable hypothesis. In short you aren't doing science.

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>> No.5881 Report Ban Global Ban

Science rests upon... blablabla
Stupid typo >_<

>> No.5901 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5880

I have not disputed either point you have brought up

"Speed" Is still relative. A meter is only a meter to a reference of an object that says that meter is a meter. If all objects shrink at an exactly uniform rate then all is just as it was.

I also did explain that we know expansion is a slow process that we can't even measure here on earth. It is only with observations of light that we know this. What I have said is falsifiable. It will just take a very long time.



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34154 No.5844 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

hey space niggers, how relevant is this shit?
We're only looking for shit that we would recognize, what if there's all kinds of other stuff going on that we don't see? Imagine, there might be a huge goddamn alien walking around your neighborhood, but our senses are ill equipped to perceive such shenanigans.

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>> No.5877 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5870

Why though?

Just because it was easy for us doesn't make it easy for others.
It's only easy because we've done it before. What if the other life form never discovers radio waves, and they use something completely different in the place of it and have been shooting those waves at us for 100's of years?

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>> No.5878 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5877

The fact that it is simple and we can easily do it does not GUARANTEE that they will be able to do it. It just makes it LIKELY that they will have found out how to do it also, if they are at least as technologically advanced as we were when we started sending out radio waves. If they are not as technologically advanced as we were then, then of course they PROBABLY won't have figured it out how to do it yet. If they as technologically advanced as we were or are now but do not know how to use radio waves, then it is a good thing we are not relying ONLY on radio waves to detect alien life. I agree, we should look for more than just radio waves.

>> No.5879 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5857
You forget the first part of the phrase, the "we can't detect them" part. If we can not detect them then we have no means of interacting with them. IF they have no physical presence nor are they affected by physical entities, they are unaffected and no not use by any kind of electromagnetic radiations, do not use gravitational waves ( we are slowly starting to be able to detect those btw), then for all intended purposes we are cut of any kind of interaction with them.
We can't communicate with them even if we wanted to, nor can we be affected by them, then for all intended purposes, theya re the same as unexistent.

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>> No.5887 Report Ban Global Ban

I bet the 4th dimension is going to be real fucked up when we can finally perceive it, all the aliens who walk among us were probably told by their gov't to only affect shit in the 4th dimension so it will be a whole different Earth to us.

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an u-boat that we could not detect would be meaningless for us since we could not interact with it anyway. As such it would be the same as it being none-existant in the first place.



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89013 No.5852 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

Are there any cosmology, or astronomy related jobs in the Air Force?

>> No.5891 Report Ban Global Ban

I'll leave anon to give you a serious answer, but thanks for the new wallpaper.

>> No.5892 Report Ban Global Ban

no cosmology or astronomy, but if you want to become an astronaut its a good place to start. aerospace engineering obviously has its place, but that is obviously a very different field.

>> No.5896 Report Ban Global Ban

Astronomy related? Absolutely. If you're an astrophysics major specializing in space weather/solar dynamics then there's a BIG place for you in the air force, and at NOAA, and at NASA, and at every telecom company around the globe.



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22198 No.5246 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

Have you guys watched Stargate Universe? I think its pretty damn good.

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>> No.5812 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5562
I agree. I think they wrote this show purposely to resemble BSG in a lot of ways. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if their long term enemy turned out to be of robots and their leader gets cancer. I mean, it's obvious that Rush = Baltar.

>> No.5815 Report Ban Global Ban

Rush only wants to get the ascension he don't want to leave the ship, also whos your favorite character??

>> No.5841 Report Ban Global Ban

"There will be aliens, but not a single dominant villain race like SG-1's Goa'uld and Atlantis' Wraith"

From wiki...

asdsadasdasdsad

>> No.5893 Report Ban Global Ban

The bit that gets me is that the ship is using FTL drives, even though it's older than ships like the Aurora that used hyperspace drives. If the Ancients had FTL travel without hyperspace, why weren't they using that?

>> No.5895 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5893
My guess is that in the sci-fi universe, hyperspace doesn't cause time dilation (somthing that pisses me off about the ship being old, if it were traveling FTL it wouldn't be).



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57623 No.5885 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

This thing scared the fucking hell out of me. It's big eyes staring blankly in one direction without blinking was bad enough, and then it has the nerve to slowly turn and face me. I was seriously getting nervous, thinking it would turn into a screamer. With big eyes, and flaring spikey teeth, or just premature gums that would crush me to death.

But enough about that, I've just got a few questions about the Star Child in general:

So basically he's transformed (or reincarnated) into a fetus that floats through space capable of not needing oxygen, water or food to survive? Would he stay that way forever, just watching time go by for the next millenia? Or would he "hatch" from his egg into a human and become the next Silver Surfer? How big is this thing? The perspective made it impossible to define. All this shit puzzles me.

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In this last section of the story (book & film), the reactivated monolith consumes Bowman and modifies him into something more than human. Bowman is led through a metamorphosis from a material being to an entity of pure energy. This entity, and David Bowman’s incarnation of himself in this state, is referred to in the 2001 book as the “Star Child”. The visual representation of David Bowman’s new state in the movie(s) is that of a variety of human David Bowman bodies at various ages (from embryo to elderly). The alien technology that accelerated the evolution of ape-like homonids at the start of the story, now advances Bowman to the next stage of human evolution.

In the novel it is inferred that Bowman as the Star Child intends to return to earth and begin super-evolving the rest of mankind. After collaborating on the character’s evolution with Kubrick in '2001', this fast-track evolution theme is played down by Clarke in the sequels. Clarke recaps much of Bowman’s transformation In '2010: Odyssey two', but chooses to ignore the notion of super-evolving the whole human race.

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>>5886
I always thought David bowman never died and went to the 5th dimension when he encountered the monolith. Later he went through the 4th dimension to get to the 3rd dimension . Thus Dr.Floyd see's Bowman but his mind can not comprehend seeing a 5th dimensional being. so he see's David skip through his life from infant to adult to old.



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3546620 No.5865 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

i'd like to ride a dirtbike on phobos. pic very related, think you could jump the gap? the crater is 9 km across, and the gravity is 1/1000th earths gravity, so you would weigh a few ounces.

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>> No.5871 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5866
Only if the impact of landing a bike on the other side of the crater is enough to kill a human. After all, the gravitational pull is much much weaker. Somebody do the math on this.

>> No.5874 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5871

Different person, but it isn't so much the impact, but the lack of one. Reaching escape velocity on Phobos is pretty easy.

>> No.5876 Report Ban Global Ban

True. It should be a very slow jump, just to preserve angular momentum.

>> No.5882 Report Ban Global Ban

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=escape+velocity+phobos

it happens to(as wolfram points out)) coincidence with the estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow, only that of course there's no air so the swallow would drop like a rock.

Given the low gravity you won't have very good traction with a dirtbike on phobos, so it might be somewhat tricky to reach any decent speed.

note that escape velocity is bigger than what orbital velocity is, you might jump into an orbit.

>> No.5888 Report Ban Global Ban

You wouldn't get enough traction, probably, and even if you would you'd bounce off because some tiny nook or hole.



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73688 No.5862 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

Hey /sagan/
What is your favorite 'space news' site? Where can I keep up to date with the latest discoveries (big and small) on a daily basis? This is related to my second question... Are there any projects in the works right now that I should be looking forward to? Any projects that just started and I should be excited for? Do we have any plans for a brand new telescope that'll blow Hubble out of the water? Anything like this?

>> No.5863 Report Ban Global Ban

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com

They write their stories up based on actual NASA internal documentation. They actually have that documentation on the site, but you have to pay to see it. The forums are pretty good, too. Fascinating place to lurk.

>> No.5864 Report Ban Global Ban

i've got dailygalaxy.com and newscientist space RSS feeds on my homepage, and i visit a few others on occasion.

>> No.5873 Report Ban Global Ban

check out www.physorg.com

esp space section



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71174 No.5833 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

So, /sagan/, please tell me what the fuck is going on.
Today, I walked home like I always do. I have to walk through a bad area (NYCfag here), although I usually complete that task without any problems. But not today. I see a rowdy gang of quantum physicists walking towards me, and I am thinking to myself "don't do anything, they'll just walk past you". But no, they don't. They stop in front of me and one of them starts playing some generic classical music. The leader of the group starts talking about atoms, and after he is finished his colleague, who is an astronomer starts talking about space and stars and quasars and pulsars. This goes on until they all had their turns bringing up logical paradoxes and thought experiments such as Maxwell's Demon in front of me. While I still am wondering what the hell is going on, one of them comes up close to me and tells me I "that all the atoms in my body, all the stars and galaxies and all the energy and matter in all the world would just dissipate into mere atoms which would leave a cold and lifeless universe", and then they walk away, laughing. Still baffled by the event, I walk home and cry about it on 420chan.

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>> No.5843 Report Ban Global Ban

>>5833
man it would've been great if you were high at the time.

>> No.5860 Report Ban Global Ban

sound like you got served.

>> No.5872 Report Ban Global Ban

You should have asked them what your current momentum was, they might have lost where you were for a second.



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35399 No.5819 Report Ban Global Ban Sticky Lock Reply

So /sagan/, how many of you run SETI@home on your PCs?

>> No.5821 Report Ban Global Ban

WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN.....

>> No.5822 Report Ban Global Ban

sorry for the crappy thumbnail, it was the only image in my boinc folder.

>>5821
basically it uses your idle cpu for processing data from SETI radio telescopes. In short, you help them try to find signs alien transmissions or other neat space phenomena. And it comes with a nice little screensaver (what I posted in the original post).

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better pic.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

>> No.5861 Report Ban Global Ban

Had it some years ago.
Usually the visual was just noise.
But sometimes you could see some spacey things. Not real patterns but the natural background 'sounds' of the solar system and beyond.



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