Space- fuck yea!
>>5829This is the most awesome picture I've ever seen. It's like breaking through the invisible walls at the end of the universe and entering a bridge between dimensions, or even Heaven itself.Thank you so much :')
>>5829
This is the most awesome picture I've ever seen. It's like breaking through the invisible walls at the end of the universe and entering a bridge between dimensions, or even Heaven itself.
Thank you so much :')
>>5875There's no need to mess with the brain.http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/colortherapy/>At first, the two monkeys behaved no differently than before. Though quick to earn a grape juice reward by picking out blue and yellow dots from a background of gray dots on a computer screen, they banged the screen randomly when presented with green or red dots.>But after five months, something clicked. The monkeys picked out red and green, again and again. At the biological level, Neitz can’t say precisely what happened — the monkeys, named Sam and Dalton, are alive and healthy, their brains unscanned and undissected — but their actions left no doubt. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5875There's no need to mess with the brain.http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/colortherapy/
>At first, the two monkeys behaved no differently than before. Though quick to earn a grape juice reward by picking out blue and yellow dots from a background of gray dots on a computer screen, they banged the screen randomly when presented with green or red dots.>But after five months, something clicked. The monkeys picked out red and green, again and again. At the biological level, Neitz can’t say precisely what happened — the monkeys, named Sam and Dalton, are alive and healthy, their brains unscanned and undissected — but their actions left no doubt.
>>5897That is very pleasing news :)
>>5897
That is very pleasing news :)
>>5858There's a bit of a problem with increasing the width of the spectrum: Your eyes and the optic elements they are made of are opaque or provide incorrect(or no) refraction to wavelengths much distant from the visible light spectrum.So seeing wider spectras would require not just improved eyes, but entirely new, additional eyes.This of course doesn't mean you can't improve the vision, we have three different photopigments and two light sensitive cell types only: this could be greatly increased in numerous ways to give high resolution vibrant color vision, and why not polarization detection too while at it.
>>5858There's a bit of a problem with increasing the width of the spectrum: Your eyes and the optic elements they are made of are opaque or provide incorrect(or no) refraction to wavelengths much distant from the visible light spectrum.
So seeing wider spectras would require not just improved eyes, but entirely new, additional eyes.
This of course doesn't mean you can't improve the vision, we have three different photopigments and two light sensitive cell types only: this could be greatly increased in numerous ways to give high resolution vibrant color vision, and why not polarization detection too while at it.
>>5897If you mess with the brain and nervous system however you could achive so much more:http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/mf_optigenetics/all/1The two way communication mentioned at the end of the article can provide enormous benefits to not just pathological conditions but normal cognition as well. We could speed up the general signal conduction: nerve fibers are embarassingly slow conductors compared to fiber optics, and there's quite a lot of white fiber tracts in the brain, not to mention the fibers from the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5897If you mess with the brain and nervous system however you could achive so much more:http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/mf_optigenetics/all/1
The two way communication mentioned at the end of the article can provide enormous benefits to not just pathological conditions but normal cognition as well.
We could speed up the general signal conduction: nerve fibers are embarassingly slow conductors compared to fiber optics, and there's quite a lot of white fiber tracts in the brain, not to mention the fibers from the spinal cord and peripheral nervous system.
It's Space Tuesday on The Science Channel.Space themed documentaries from 5:00pm to 2:00am.Starts in an hour with Carl Sagan's Cosmos - Encyclopedia Galactica.Enjoy.
>Space is filled with a network of Worm holes. You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.>You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.> els in space, or so> els Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Space is filled with a network of Worm holes. You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.
>You might emerge some where els in space, or some when else in time.
> els in space, or so
> els
>>5780A brand new glorious dawn awaits, not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise. A morning of 600 billion suns, the rising of the milky way.
>>5824The cosmos is full beyond measure of elegant truths of exquisite interrelationships of the awesome machinery of nature.
>>5820A typo is a little different from completely misquoting someone.You probably thought you were clever, eh? You should get back to /weed/.
>>5820
A typo is a little different from completely misquoting someone.
You probably thought you were clever, eh? You should get back to /weed/.
>>5780Jews, Americans and towelheads will kill us all long before that.
Who else here fucking loves Earth? I may be partial and all, yu know being an inhabitant and everything. But how often do you consider the fact that we are on a giant rotating rock, orbiting a colossal constant hydrogen explosion? Shit blows my mind.
Who else here fucking loves Earth? I may be partial and all, yu know being an inhabitant and everything. But how often do you consider the fact that we are on a giant rotating rock, orbiting a colossal constant hydrogen explosion?
Shit blows my mind.
>>5794>if Jupiter got it first, or the sunThat is seriously not as likely as you seem to think. Jupiter and the sun are not protecting us from anything.
>>5794
>if Jupiter got it first, or the sun
That is seriously not as likely as you seem to think. Jupiter and the sun are not protecting us from anything.
>>5883Maybe not only those 2 bodies, but we have a moon which has tons of impact craters, Mars has them, Any planet we've seen has them. Earth has so many fewer. If it was ONLY earth floating around, we would get hit all the time.
>>5889Uh... Earth has few craters not because we aren't hit just like other planets, but because EROSION gets rid of them within a few hundred million years.
>>5894That and most of our surface is water.
>>5898or covered by vegetation, or huge piles of erosion byproducts(aka sand).Not to mention our atmosphere acts as a filter for the smaller rocks. Venus, lacking moons but having an atmosphere in which styrofoam floats, in addition to volcanic activity is quite craterfree too. Not that you see the surface that often, unless you use radar:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Venus_globe.jpg
>>5898or covered by vegetation, or huge piles of erosion byproducts(aka sand).
Not to mention our atmosphere acts as a filter for the smaller rocks. Venus, lacking moons but having an atmosphere in which styrofoam floats, in addition to volcanic activity is quite craterfree too. Not that you see the surface that often, unless you use radar:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Venus_globe.jpg
So what if a galaxy is an atom?
>>5845>Besides, particules, the actual elementary particules are all dimentionless, they can't scrink since they do not have a size to begin with.But you know they have an area of affect which can change. If the area changes but the particle doesn't, it would give you a clue such as "this atom is shrinking" bur for that you'd be referencing the particle to the atom. Since the building blocks themselves have no dimension, there's no reference. You would not know. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5845
>Besides, particules, the actual elementary particules are all dimentionless, they can't scrink since they do not have a size to begin with.
But you know they have an area of affect which can change. If the area changes but the particle doesn't, it would give you a clue such as "this atom is shrinking" bur for that you'd be referencing the particle to the atom. Since the building blocks themselves have no dimension, there's no reference. You would not know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDC3u8k02csimpsons did it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDC3u8k02c
simpsons did it.
>>5855Since on a whole rests upone one asumption, an axiome, or a dogma if you will:Physical proprieties are unchanged, unaffected by a translation in time and/or space.Meaning that no matter "where" or "when" you are, the basic physical proprietes are the same: The speed of light was the same in the adromedia galaxie 3 billion years ago than it is in our laboratories today.If you do not accept that axiom, you have to grounds upon which any reasoning can be made, nor can you make any falsifiable hypothesis. In short you aren't doing science. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5855Since on a whole rests upone one asumption, an axiome, or a dogma if you will:Physical proprieties are unchanged, unaffected by a translation in time and/or space.Meaning that no matter "where" or "when" you are, the basic physical proprietes are the same: The speed of light was the same in the adromedia galaxie 3 billion years ago than it is in our laboratories today.If you do not accept that axiom, you have to grounds upon which any reasoning can be made, nor can you make any falsifiable hypothesis. In short you aren't doing science.
Science rests upon... blablablaStupid typo >_<
>>5880I have not disputed either point you have brought up"Speed" Is still relative. A meter is only a meter to a reference of an object that says that meter is a meter. If all objects shrink at an exactly uniform rate then all is just as it was.I also did explain that we know expansion is a slow process that we can't even measure here on earth. It is only with observations of light that we know this. What I have said is falsifiable. It will just take a very long time.
>>5880
I have not disputed either point you have brought up
"Speed" Is still relative. A meter is only a meter to a reference of an object that says that meter is a meter. If all objects shrink at an exactly uniform rate then all is just as it was.
I also did explain that we know expansion is a slow process that we can't even measure here on earth. It is only with observations of light that we know this. What I have said is falsifiable. It will just take a very long time.
hey space niggers, how relevant is this shit?We're only looking for shit that we would recognize, what if there's all kinds of other stuff going on that we don't see? Imagine, there might be a huge goddamn alien walking around your neighborhood, but our senses are ill equipped to perceive such shenanigans.
>>5870Why though?Just because it was easy for us doesn't make it easy for others. It's only easy because we've done it before. What if the other life form never discovers radio waves, and they use something completely different in the place of it and have been shooting those waves at us for 100's of years? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5870
Why though?
Just because it was easy for us doesn't make it easy for others. It's only easy because we've done it before. What if the other life form never discovers radio waves, and they use something completely different in the place of it and have been shooting those waves at us for 100's of years?
>>5877The fact that it is simple and we can easily do it does not GUARANTEE that they will be able to do it. It just makes it LIKELY that they will have found out how to do it also, if they are at least as technologically advanced as we were when we started sending out radio waves. If they are not as technologically advanced as we were then, then of course they PROBABLY won't have figured it out how to do it yet. If they as technologically advanced as we were or are now but do not know how to use radio waves, then it is a good thing we are not relying ONLY on radio waves to detect alien life. I agree, we should look for more than just radio waves.
>>5877
The fact that it is simple and we can easily do it does not GUARANTEE that they will be able to do it. It just makes it LIKELY that they will have found out how to do it also, if they are at least as technologically advanced as we were when we started sending out radio waves. If they are not as technologically advanced as we were then, then of course they PROBABLY won't have figured it out how to do it yet. If they as technologically advanced as we were or are now but do not know how to use radio waves, then it is a good thing we are not relying ONLY on radio waves to detect alien life. I agree, we should look for more than just radio waves.
>>5857You forget the first part of the phrase, the "we can't detect them" part. If we can not detect them then we have no means of interacting with them. IF they have no physical presence nor are they affected by physical entities, they are unaffected and no not use by any kind of electromagnetic radiations, do not use gravitational waves ( we are slowly starting to be able to detect those btw), then for all intended purposes we are cut of any kind of interaction with them.We can't communicate with them even if we wanted to, nor can we be affected by them, then for all intended purposes, theya re the same as unexistent. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>5857You forget the first part of the phrase, the "we can't detect them" part. If we can not detect them then we have no means of interacting with them. IF they have no physical presence nor are they affected by physical entities, they are unaffected and no not use by any kind of electromagnetic radiations, do not use gravitational waves ( we are slowly starting to be able to detect those btw), then for all intended purposes we are cut of any kind of interaction with them.We can't communicate with them even if we wanted to, nor can we be affected by them, then for all intended purposes, theya re the same as unexistent.
I bet the 4th dimension is going to be real fucked up when we can finally perceive it, all the aliens who walk among us were probably told by their gov't to only affect shit in the 4th dimension so it will be a whole different Earth to us.
an u-boat that we could not detect would be meaningless for us since we could not interact with it anyway. As such it would be the same as it being none-existant in the first place.
Are there any cosmology, or astronomy related jobs in the Air Force?
I'll leave anon to give you a serious answer, but thanks for the new wallpaper.
no cosmology or astronomy, but if you want to become an astronaut its a good place to start. aerospace engineering obviously has its place, but that is obviously a very different field.
Astronomy related? Absolutely. If you're an astrophysics major specializing in space weather/solar dynamics then there's a BIG place for you in the air force, and at NOAA, and at NASA, and at every telecom company around the globe.
Have you guys watched Stargate Universe? I think its pretty damn good.
>>5562I agree. I think they wrote this show purposely to resemble BSG in a lot of ways. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if their long term enemy turned out to be of robots and their leader gets cancer. I mean, it's obvious that Rush = Baltar.
Rush only wants to get the ascension he don't want to leave the ship, also whos your favorite character??
"There will be aliens, but not a single dominant villain race like SG-1's Goa'uld and Atlantis' Wraith"From wiki...asdsadasdasdsad
"There will be aliens, but not a single dominant villain race like SG-1's Goa'uld and Atlantis' Wraith"
From wiki...
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The bit that gets me is that the ship is using FTL drives, even though it's older than ships like the Aurora that used hyperspace drives. If the Ancients had FTL travel without hyperspace, why weren't they using that?
>>5893My guess is that in the sci-fi universe, hyperspace doesn't cause time dilation (somthing that pisses me off about the ship being old, if it were traveling FTL it wouldn't be).
This thing scared the fucking hell out of me. It's big eyes staring blankly in one direction without blinking was bad enough, and then it has the nerve to slowly turn and face me. I was seriously getting nervous, thinking it would turn into a screamer. With big eyes, and flaring spikey teeth, or just premature gums that would crush me to death.But enough about that, I've just got a few questions about the Star Child in general:So basically he's transformed (or reincarnated) into a fetus that floats through space capable of not needing oxygen, water or food to survive? Would he stay that way forever, just watching time go by for the next millenia? Or would he "hatch" from his egg into a human and become the next Silver Surfer? How big is this thing? The perspective made it impossible to define. All this shit puzzles me. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
This thing scared the fucking hell out of me. It's big eyes staring blankly in one direction without blinking was bad enough, and then it has the nerve to slowly turn and face me. I was seriously getting nervous, thinking it would turn into a screamer. With big eyes, and flaring spikey teeth, or just premature gums that would crush me to death.
But enough about that, I've just got a few questions about the Star Child in general:
So basically he's transformed (or reincarnated) into a fetus that floats through space capable of not needing oxygen, water or food to survive? Would he stay that way forever, just watching time go by for the next millenia? Or would he "hatch" from his egg into a human and become the next Silver Surfer? How big is this thing? The perspective made it impossible to define. All this shit puzzles me.
In this last section of the story (book & film), the reactivated monolith consumes Bowman and modifies him into something more than human. Bowman is led through a metamorphosis from a material being to an entity of pure energy. This entity, and David Bowman’s incarnation of himself in this state, is referred to in the 2001 book as the “Star Child”. The visual representation of David Bowman’s new state in the movie(s) is that of a variety of human David Bowman bodies at various ages (from embryo to elderly). The alien technology that accelerated the evolution of ape-like homonids at the start of the story, now advances Bowman to the next stage of human evolution.In the novel it is inferred that Bowman as the Star Child intends to return to earth and begin super-evolving the rest of mankind. After collaborating on the character’s evolution with Kubrick in '2001', this fast-track evolution theme is played down by Clarke in the sequels. Clarke recaps much of Bowman’s transformation In '2010: Odyssey two', but chooses to ignore the notion of super-evolving the whole human race. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
In this last section of the story (book & film), the reactivated monolith consumes Bowman and modifies him into something more than human. Bowman is led through a metamorphosis from a material being to an entity of pure energy. This entity, and David Bowman’s incarnation of himself in this state, is referred to in the 2001 book as the “Star Child”. The visual representation of David Bowman’s new state in the movie(s) is that of a variety of human David Bowman bodies at various ages (from embryo to elderly). The alien technology that accelerated the evolution of ape-like homonids at the start of the story, now advances Bowman to the next stage of human evolution.
In the novel it is inferred that Bowman as the Star Child intends to return to earth and begin super-evolving the rest of mankind. After collaborating on the character’s evolution with Kubrick in '2001', this fast-track evolution theme is played down by Clarke in the sequels. Clarke recaps much of Bowman’s transformation In '2010: Odyssey two', but chooses to ignore the notion of super-evolving the whole human race.
>>5886I always thought David bowman never died and went to the 5th dimension when he encountered the monolith. Later he went through the 4th dimension to get to the 3rd dimension . Thus Dr.Floyd see's Bowman but his mind can not comprehend seeing a 5th dimensional being. so he see's David skip through his life from infant to adult to old.
i'd like to ride a dirtbike on phobos. pic very related, think you could jump the gap? the crater is 9 km across, and the gravity is 1/1000th earths gravity, so you would weigh a few ounces.
>>5866Only if the impact of landing a bike on the other side of the crater is enough to kill a human. After all, the gravitational pull is much much weaker. Somebody do the math on this.
>>5871Different person, but it isn't so much the impact, but the lack of one. Reaching escape velocity on Phobos is pretty easy.
>>5871
Different person, but it isn't so much the impact, but the lack of one. Reaching escape velocity on Phobos is pretty easy.
True. It should be a very slow jump, just to preserve angular momentum.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=escape+velocity+phobosit happens to(as wolfram points out)) coincidence with the estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow, only that of course there's no air so the swallow would drop like a rock.Given the low gravity you won't have very good traction with a dirtbike on phobos, so it might be somewhat tricky to reach any decent speed.note that escape velocity is bigger than what orbital velocity is, you might jump into an orbit.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=escape+velocity+phobos
it happens to(as wolfram points out)) coincidence with the estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow, only that of course there's no air so the swallow would drop like a rock.
Given the low gravity you won't have very good traction with a dirtbike on phobos, so it might be somewhat tricky to reach any decent speed.
note that escape velocity is bigger than what orbital velocity is, you might jump into an orbit.
You wouldn't get enough traction, probably, and even if you would you'd bounce off because some tiny nook or hole.
Hey /sagan/What is your favorite 'space news' site? Where can I keep up to date with the latest discoveries (big and small) on a daily basis? This is related to my second question... Are there any projects in the works right now that I should be looking forward to? Any projects that just started and I should be excited for? Do we have any plans for a brand new telescope that'll blow Hubble out of the water? Anything like this?
http://www.nasaspaceflight.comThey write their stories up based on actual NASA internal documentation. They actually have that documentation on the site, but you have to pay to see it. The forums are pretty good, too. Fascinating place to lurk.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com
They write their stories up based on actual NASA internal documentation. They actually have that documentation on the site, but you have to pay to see it. The forums are pretty good, too. Fascinating place to lurk.
i've got dailygalaxy.com and newscientist space RSS feeds on my homepage, and i visit a few others on occasion.
check out www.physorg.comesp space section
check out www.physorg.com
esp space section
So, /sagan/, please tell me what the fuck is going on.Today, I walked home like I always do. I have to walk through a bad area (NYCfag here), although I usually complete that task without any problems. But not today. I see a rowdy gang of quantum physicists walking towards me, and I am thinking to myself "don't do anything, they'll just walk past you". But no, they don't. They stop in front of me and one of them starts playing some generic classical music. The leader of the group starts talking about atoms, and after he is finished his colleague, who is an astronomer starts talking about space and stars and quasars and pulsars. This goes on until they all had their turns bringing up logical paradoxes and thought experiments such as Maxwell's Demon in front of me. While I still am wondering what the hell is going on, one of them comes up close to me and tells me I "that all the atoms in my body, all the stars and galaxies and all the energy and matter in all the world would just dissipate into mere atoms which would leave a cold and lifeless universe", and then they walk away, laughing. Still baffled by the event, I walk home and cry about it on 420chan. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
So, /sagan/, please tell me what the fuck is going on.Today, I walked home like I always do. I have to walk through a bad area (NYCfag here), although I usually complete that task without any problems. But not today. I see a rowdy gang of quantum physicists walking towards me, and I am thinking to myself "don't do anything, they'll just walk past you". But no, they don't. They stop in front of me and one of them starts playing some generic classical music. The leader of the group starts talking about atoms, and after he is finished his colleague, who is an astronomer starts talking about space and stars and quasars and pulsars. This goes on until they all had their turns bringing up logical paradoxes and thought experiments such as Maxwell's Demon in front of me. While I still am wondering what the hell is going on, one of them comes up close to me and tells me I "that all the atoms in my body, all the stars and galaxies and all the energy and matter in all the world would just dissipate into mere atoms which would leave a cold and lifeless universe", and then they walk away, laughing. Still baffled by the event, I walk home and cry about it on 420chan.
>>5833man it would've been great if you were high at the time.
sound like you got served.
You should have asked them what your current momentum was, they might have lost where you were for a second.
So /sagan/, how many of you run SETI@home on your PCs?
WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN.....
sorry for the crappy thumbnail, it was the only image in my boinc folder.>>5821basically it uses your idle cpu for processing data from SETI radio telescopes. In short, you help them try to find signs alien transmissions or other neat space phenomena. And it comes with a nice little screensaver (what I posted in the original post).
sorry for the crappy thumbnail, it was the only image in my boinc folder.
>>5821basically it uses your idle cpu for processing data from SETI radio telescopes. In short, you help them try to find signs alien transmissions or other neat space phenomena. And it comes with a nice little screensaver (what I posted in the original post).
better pic.http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
better pic.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/
Had it some years ago.Usually the visual was just noise.But sometimes you could see some spacey things. Not real patterns but the natural background 'sounds' of the solar system and beyond.