Hey /pol/ I mean this question absoloutely seriously: What do you think Obama's chances are of getting re-elected? If health care reform works? If it fails? Speculations and scenarios be abound.Please, no immature faggoting, to be serious here.
Hey /pol/ I mean this question absoloutely seriously:
What do you think Obama's chances are of getting re-elected? If health care reform works? If it fails? Speculations and scenarios be abound.
Please, no immature faggoting, to be serious here.
>>108992>Health care reform is not truly health care reformdurp
>>108992
>Health care reform is not truly health care reform
durp
>>108992>None. Health care reform is not truly health care reform. It is a group of disgusting socialist diarrhea pushing personal ideology and jailing those who do not submit to the theft of their income. Lol'd.The insurance companies love you, keep it up.
>None. Health care reform is not truly health care reform. It is a group of disgusting socialist diarrhea pushing personal ideology and jailing those who do not submit to the theft of their income.
Lol'd.
The insurance companies love you, keep it up.
>>109036The insurance companies pay me to post on 420 chan.
>>109036
The insurance companies pay me to post on 420 chan.
>>109036Which is quite the coincidence, because many of them love this bill.Most insurance pools operate at non-profit levels already and simply make money by investing the risk pool and betting against themselves in high risk pools. Some backer beat the system by buying up treasuries pushing for a bailout and having the corporate front cry poor mouth when they start taking a bath, thereby protecting their own assets while backing their own bailout. Treasuries or not, they'd still be responsible for backing the bad bet, but that way they can pressure congress to use the credit they've extended to protect a "too big to fail" while sticking the bill to the taxpayer. That's what AIG backers did. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>109036Which is quite the coincidence, because many of them love this bill.
Most insurance pools operate at non-profit levels already and simply make money by investing the risk pool and betting against themselves in high risk pools. Some backer beat the system by buying up treasuries pushing for a bailout and having the corporate front cry poor mouth when they start taking a bath, thereby protecting their own assets while backing their own bailout. Treasuries or not, they'd still be responsible for backing the bad bet, but that way they can pressure congress to use the credit they've extended to protect a "too big to fail" while sticking the bill to the taxpayer. That's what AIG backers did.
>>108988 Absentee ballot fraud is alot easier than you think friend.
>>108988
Absentee ballot fraud is alot easier than you think friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpsREmJWAiw&feature=channelhow long did it take you to rage at this stupid fucking cunt?as soon as she opened her whore mouth talking like she knows shit about economics, i almost put my fist through my monitor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpsREmJWAiw&feature=channel
how long did it take you to rage at this stupid fucking cunt?
as soon as she opened her whore mouth talking like she knows shit about economics, i almost put my fist through my monitor.
>>108987gtfo the stimulus is going to cause another financial crisis. The gov can't print wealth you jackass.
>>108987
gtfo the stimulus is going to cause another financial crisis. The gov can't print wealth you jackass.
We have angered the economy with our frivolous spending. We must save our money, and wear bedsheets.This seems to be Peter Schiffs view. Which is ridiculous because how can you get the economy going again when there is no money circulating to stimulate it?Why do you think interest rates go up when the economy is doing well? It happens because it is an incentive to save and slows the growth of the economy as fewer people spend and more save due to higher return.So that's foolish. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
We have angered the economy with our frivolous spending. We must save our money, and wear bedsheets.This seems to be Peter Schiffs view. Which is ridiculous because how can you get the economy going again when there is no money circulating to stimulate it?Why do you think interest rates go up when the economy is doing well? It happens because it is an incentive to save and slows the growth of the economy as fewer people spend and more save due to higher return.
So that's foolish.
>>109030>Why do you think interest rates go up when the economy is doing well?dude, they are artificially changed by the fed. the market can't function properly with the fed fucking around like that. I think your conclusion is correct, but it's also EXACTLY what Schiff is advocating.
>>109030
>Why do you think interest rates go up when the economy is doing well?
dude, they are artificially changed by the fed. the market can't function properly with the fed fucking around like that. I think your conclusion is correct, but it's also EXACTLY what Schiff is advocating.
>>109040 What the hell are you on about it can't function properly?The Fed or the Bank of England just set the base rate. The banks have to borrow money off them at this rate. If it costs more you tend to find it gets used less, interest rats are the cost of money. So if that cost is increased people use money less and so the economy slows, seeing as it uses money as the medium of exchange.So your point about the market not functioning is invalid, unless you want to put a ban on lending there will be an interest rate, how it is set is actually determined by market conditions, seeing as changes in the market cause changes in interest rates. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>109040
What the hell are you on about it can't function properly?The Fed or the Bank of England just set the base rate. The banks have to borrow money off them at this rate. If it costs more you tend to find it gets used less, interest rats are the cost of money. So if that cost is increased people use money less and so the economy slows, seeing as it uses money as the medium of exchange.So your point about the market not functioning is invalid, unless you want to put a ban on lending there will be an interest rate, how it is set is actually determined by market conditions, seeing as changes in the market cause changes in interest rates.
>>109041Listen, dude....When the FED has interest rates at 0% and foreign banks have interest rates, at say, 7% Then people borrow money here, for next to nothing, and then save it overseas for 7% profit. This floods the foreign markets with Dollars, dollars that they don't sit on but that they turn around and invest putting more dollars very visibly out on the world market. This makes money for bank/investment houses that can lend themselves the money to put in over seas banks, while sucking wealth from everyone else through inflation. In the past our dollar was a embodiment of our ability to consume, and so this plan worked because those foreign banks would sit on the money. But that confidence no longer exists and most banks are trying to push for a new reserve currency. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>109041Listen, dude....When the FED has interest rates at 0% and foreign banks have interest rates, at say, 7% Then people borrow money here, for next to nothing, and then save it overseas for 7% profit. This floods the foreign markets with Dollars, dollars that they don't sit on but that they turn around and invest putting more dollars very visibly out on the world market. This makes money for bank/investment houses that can lend themselves the money to put in over seas banks, while sucking wealth from everyone else through inflation. In the past our dollar was a embodiment of our ability to consume, and so this plan worked because those foreign banks would sit on the money. But that confidence no longer exists and most banks are trying to push for a new reserve currency.
I wanted to share this with you guys.. The butthurt is palpable.http://www.ihateobama.com/index.htmlOne of those crazy right wingers figured out how to put TEXT ON IMAEG, hilarity ensues. I also learned that Obama wants to murder my Grandma. What the fuck!
I wanted to share this with you guys.. The butthurt is palpable.
http://www.ihateobama.com/index.html
One of those crazy right wingers figured out how to put TEXT ON IMAEG, hilarity ensues. I also learned that Obama wants to murder my Grandma. What the fuck!
rofl
>>108817Butthurt? You're an idiot, OP.That site was probably set up by the political equivalent of Gene Ray, and is therefore worthy of a fanbase.
>listen carefullygrasshopper. Only badthings happen to he whoties rope around his neckand balls.What the hell am I reading?
>listen carefully
grasshopper. Only badthings happen to he whoties rope around his neckand balls.
What the hell am I reading?
>>108820>That site was probably set up by the political equivalent of Gene Ray>and is therefore worthy of a fanbase.My thoughts exactly, excluding the "you're an idiot" part.
>>108820
>That site was probably set up by the political equivalent of Gene Ray>and is therefore worthy of a fanbase.
My thoughts exactly, excluding the "you're an idiot" part.
>>109038Well, since we're in agreement, let's fuck.
An unruly 10-year-old girl has been given a Taser stun gun jolt after she kicked an Arkansas policeman in the groin.Police were called to a home in Ozark, near Little Rock, over a domestic disturbance, according to a report by Officer Dustin Bradshaw.When he arrived, the girl was curled up on the floor and screaming, he wrote.The youngster was also kicking and resisting every time her mother tried to get her in the shower before bed, the report continued. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
An unruly 10-year-old girl has been given a Taser stun gun jolt after she kicked an Arkansas policeman in the groin.
Police were called to a home in Ozark, near Little Rock, over a domestic disturbance, according to a report by Officer Dustin Bradshaw.
When he arrived, the girl was curled up on the floor and screaming, he wrote.
The youngster was also kicking and resisting every time her mother tried to get her in the shower before bed, the report continued.
>suspended for seven days with pay OH NOES>>108977start sacking incompetent cops and we'll only have a couple left
>suspended for seven days with pay
OH NOES
>>108977start sacking incompetent cops and we'll only have a couple left
Lol tased a 10 year old girlFucking win
Lol tased a 10 year old girl
Fucking win
>>108978and that would be bad why?
>>108977Why should we risk the health of our justice system to poorly subdue people. Yeah the cops could have further harmed themselves to subdue the girl but I'd rather have a couple spoiled girls incapacitated then a couple cops..Tl;dr how many times is the girl allowed to kick the cop n the balls before it's not "edgy" anymore?
>>108977Why should we risk the health of our justice system to poorly subdue people. Yeah the cops could have further harmed themselves to subdue the girl but I'd rather have a couple spoiled girls incapacitated then a couple cops..
Tl;dr how many times is the girl allowed to kick the cop n the balls before it's not "edgy" anymore?
Incompetent retard cops and incompetent retard parent.God bless America
Incompetent retard cops and incompetent retard parent.
God bless America
TAMPA - The priest was lost in the Channel District and needed directions to Interstate 275, so he tapped a U.S. Marines reservist on the arm and, in a thick Greek accent, asked for help.That's how police say the incident began.But Lance Cpl. Jasen Bruce said the man, who was wearing a robe, sandals and a long beard, propositioned him in English and grabbed his genitals. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
TAMPA - The priest was lost in the Channel District and needed directions to Interstate 275, so he tapped a U.S. Marines reservist on the arm and, in a thick Greek accent, asked for help.
That's how police say the incident began.
But Lance Cpl. Jasen Bruce said the man, who was wearing a robe, sandals and a long beard, propositioned him in English and grabbed his genitals.
>>108983A Greek Orthodox (Christian) priest from Greece is an arab? Even if your arguement that he was an Albanian or a Turk does not make him a muslim.
>>108983
A Greek Orthodox (Christian) priest from Greece is an arab? Even if your arguement that he was an Albanian or a Turk does not make him a muslim.
>>108983Jasen Bruce said the Greek Orthodox priest was a terrorist who tried to rob and molest him. Repeat that to yourself: 'a terrorist who tried to rob and molest him'Is this really a case of "he said/she said"?
>>109010>A Greek Orthodox (Christian) priest from Greece is an arab?Maybe. But regardless he could have looked like one.>Even if your arguement that he was an Albanian or a Turk does not make him a muslim. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>109010
>A Greek Orthodox (Christian) priest from Greece is an arab?
Maybe. But regardless he could have looked like one.
>Even if your arguement that he was an Albanian or a Turk does not make him a muslim.
This is hilarious.
A Marine acting like a complete tool? Who would've thought.
Dear /pol/ I have a serious question.What moral code do you believe we as a society should follow?I ask because (admittedly IMO) laws and morals are inseperable, so the moral code of a society is what dictates its laws. Now as every society needs some sort of rules (unless you want true anarchy) what rules should these be?I'm just curious, noone seems happy with the current state of law and society in general, so I ask, if we started from scratch, what would you implement?Also would you prefer a legal system based on precedent (i.e. Britsh) or based on a constitution (i.e. America)? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Dear /pol/ I have a serious question.What moral code do you believe we as a society should follow?
I ask because (admittedly IMO) laws and morals are inseperable, so the moral code of a society is what dictates its laws. Now as every society needs some sort of rules (unless you want true anarchy) what rules should these be?I'm just curious, noone seems happy with the current state of law and society in general, so I ask, if we started from scratch, what would you implement?Also would you prefer a legal system based on precedent (i.e. Britsh) or based on a constitution (i.e. America)?
>>109015 Stealing by deceptiondeception = lying
>>109015
Stealing by deception
deception = lying
>>109026no they could just not say anything which isn't lying. Also this isn't the only way people can lie is it you idiot. Stop being a moron.
>>109027 Yes and not saying anything is also an offence.We have crimes for lying.Slander, Libel, Fraud. All of these are crimes for lying. Please get your head out of your ass.
>>109027
Yes and not saying anything is also an offence.
We have crimes for lying.
Slander, Libel, Fraud. All of these are crimes for lying. Please get your head out of your ass.
>>109031But not all lying is a fucking crime you dumbass.
>>109033 Yes, because not all lying is considered immoral enough for punishment
>>109033
Yes, because not all lying is considered immoral enough for punishment
Tell me what you all think about Hate Crime Legislation:
If I kill Joe the black man because he's black, I'm a threat to all black people.If I kill Joe the black man because he's Joe, I was only a threat to Joe--I'm killing more discriminately.The first implies someone more fucked up that needs to be locked up a bit longer. The second implies a personal dispute. If this were the logic employed I could see it making more sense. That said, even if this logic were the case, the way they're applied and developed [slowly protecting additional groups over time] is pretty fucked up. Unless there is conclusive evidence based on the expression of the accused [if they shout 'go home, nigger' or 'fucken' tranny!'] they shouldn't fly. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
If I kill Joe the black man because he's black, I'm a threat to all black people.
If I kill Joe the black man because he's Joe, I was only a threat to Joe--I'm killing more discriminately.
The first implies someone more fucked up that needs to be locked up a bit longer. The second implies a personal dispute. If this were the logic employed I could see it making more sense. That said, even if this logic were the case, the way they're applied and developed [slowly protecting additional groups over time] is pretty fucked up. Unless there is conclusive evidence based on the expression of the accused [if they shout 'go home, nigger' or 'fucken' tranny!'] they shouldn't fly.
>>109018*if they shout during/prior to the act of killing the target of their slurring. Verbal expression ought to remain protected.I like shouting 'breeder'.
>>109018*if they shout during/prior to the act of killing the target of their slurring. Verbal expression ought to remain protected.
I like shouting 'breeder'.
>>109018The problem is that 'hate crime' laws will never be applied fairly, and there's no way to insure that they will be.You shouldn't get extra years added on to a sentence just because you don't like 'insert race, religion or sexual orientation here.'
>>109018The problem is that 'hate crime' laws will never be applied fairly, and there's no way to insure that they will be.
You shouldn't get extra years added on to a sentence just because you don't like 'insert race, religion or sexual orientation here.'
I hate jewshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83t_s7Y3EH4
Hate crime laws only serve to further separate ethnic and religious groups
Surely I'm not the only one who admires the DPRK and their brilliant leader, Kim Jong-Il?In a world where practically every country has accepted neo-liberalism and the dominance of western corporations over their economies, North Korea stands out as an island of freedom and democracy; an island of anti-imperialist resistance.Trolls will inevitably respond with a bunch of hogwash about a lack of 'human rights'.Fuck them. I know the DPRK probably treats dissidents harshly, but considering that the alternative is letting McDonalds and Nike and all those other corporations come in, steal the resources and turn the country into another fugly advertisement-ridden brothel, I think the way they treat the issue is more than justified. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Surely I'm not the only one who admires the DPRK and their brilliant leader, Kim Jong-Il?In a world where practically every country has accepted neo-liberalism and the dominance of western corporations over their economies, North Korea stands out as an island of freedom and democracy; an island of anti-imperialist resistance.
Trolls will inevitably respond with a bunch of hogwash about a lack of 'human rights'.Fuck them. I know the DPRK probably treats dissidents harshly, but considering that the alternative is letting McDonalds and Nike and all those other corporations come in, steal the resources and turn the country into another fugly advertisement-ridden brothel, I think the way they treat the issue is more than justified.
>>108870Because North Korea can't sustain itself with protectionism, it's population used to subsist on agriculture from the south. And they aren't Maoist. They're more or less in the same political position as Cuba, except Cuba is far better off materially, whereas NK basically has to beg and rub up to other states to survive. Don't think that liberalization will help them. The moment NK collapses is the moment the population is basically consigned to actual slave labor, as opposed to slave labor that can keep you subsisting long enough for your economy to join another protectionist bloc.
>>108890It is pretty true actually. If you want to see the difference between a centrally planned economy and society and a free one you only need to look at the differences between north and south Korea.
>>109000exactly. South Korea has more available bandwidth than anywhere in the world. North Korea doesn't even have enough rice. what a joke that shit hole is.
>>109000
exactly. South Korea has more available bandwidth than anywhere in the world. North Korea doesn't even have enough rice. what a joke that shit hole is.
>>109005You have to think aswell, north and south Korea were at a similar level of development before WW2 and division. Now South korea is one of the most developed countries in asia (only behind Australia and Japan) and the north korea which is one of the worst in the world. It really shows the mentality of socialists toward human life. But just listen to this >>108910 guy;>Even though the DPRK has some 'free trade zones', it still adheres to centralized economic planning to a greater degree than other states, and I'd consider it the closest to socialism we have at the moment. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>109005You have to think aswell, north and south Korea were at a similar level of development before WW2 and division. Now South korea is one of the most developed countries in asia (only behind Australia and Japan) and the north korea which is one of the worst in the world. It really shows the mentality of socialists toward human life.
But just listen to this >>108910 guy;
>Even though the DPRK has some 'free trade zones', it still adheres to centralized economic planning to a greater degree than other states, and I'd consider it the closest to socialism we have at the moment.
>>109009North Korea was, for a long stretch of time, more developed than South Korea.
Hello gentlemen, I come to you with a question about this imaginary situation. Ok, There is this imaginary land where one fine day some bunch of scientists find that humans themselves are great fraw material for producing energy by some ridiculous ways. It could be used as a perfect fuel. The worlds resources are kinda low in this dimension so everybody would sell their mother for some fuel for the SUVs. You are in charge of this worlds economy, what would you do when the scientists tell you about this?
Hello gentlemen, I come to you with a question about this imaginary situation.
Ok, There is this imaginary land where one fine day some bunch of scientists find that humans themselves are great fraw material for producing energy by some ridiculous ways. It could be used as a perfect fuel. The worlds resources are kinda low in this dimension so everybody would sell their mother for some fuel for the SUVs. You are in charge of this worlds economy, what would you do when the scientists tell you about this?
Holocaust 2.0!!!
What would'nt I do?
a perfect way for criminals to repay their debt to society
Gather those of similar ideology and use the new fuel with the infidels
Wonder why only humans can be used....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2kTy7glZ9sFreedom: 1Socialism: 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjXRreGTAo&feature=related
Why is it that America demonized Al Jazeera? I frequent their English website and usually find very little bias besides a slight tinge of anti-Israel sentiment. Can anyone on /pol/ refresh my memory as to why the United States pushed the idea that Al Jazeera was a terrorist-friendly news network? Can someone possibly show me some evidence of their blatant anti-american propaganda, or their blatant terrorist propaganda? It seems that Al Jazeera is regarded and thought parallel to terrorism where I live and with anyone I talk to.
Why is it that America demonized Al Jazeera? I frequent their English website and usually find very little bias besides a slight tinge of anti-Israel sentiment.
Can anyone on /pol/ refresh my memory as to why the United States pushed the idea that Al Jazeera was a terrorist-friendly news network? Can someone possibly show me some evidence of their blatant anti-american propaganda, or their blatant terrorist propaganda? It seems that Al Jazeera is regarded and thought parallel to terrorism where I live and with anyone I talk to.
>>1089570/10Uneducated hicks do not watch the news when they watch TV.
>>108851I used to read AJ english frequently just to see a different perspective, the content mostly parroted European news agencies but it was written a little dumber. Not a big deal, I imagine english is probably the b team over there anyway. Then I read a report that the english AJ is white washed for western audiences. I wasn't sure since news agencies are always writing stories against each other so I dug a little deeper. Remember when Israel traded several living combatants for some dead soldiers? One of those terrorist guys was captured while riflebutting a fucking toddler to death. When he got out, AJ arabic held a fucking birthday party for him. There was a band and a cake, and he cut it with a scimitar. Call me a Jew propagandist or whatever, but these guys have a level of bias which borders on complete fucking insanity /ranthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFWVkSU3ic4
>>108838>It's interesting reading their coverage of Lebanon and Jordan in relation to Israel. Even though both countries have no problem with IsraelI think you'll find relations between Israel and Lebanon are still pretty tense after the 2006 war
>>108838
>It's interesting reading their coverage of Lebanon and Jordan in relation to Israel. Even though both countries have no problem with Israel
I think you'll find relations between Israel and Lebanon are still pretty tense after the 2006 war
>>108974>One of those terrorist guys was captured while riflebutting a fucking toddler to death. When he got out, AJ arabic held a fucking birthday party for him.Haha OH WOW.It's fun how you never hear about shit like this even on FOX NEWS.
>>108974
>One of those terrorist guys was captured while riflebutting a fucking toddler to death. When he got out, AJ arabic held a fucking birthday party for him.
Haha OH WOW.
It's fun how you never hear about shit like this even on FOX NEWS.
>>108957>lowerclass uneducated hicks So pretty much all of America.
>>108957
>lowerclass uneducated hicks
So pretty much all of America.
ATTENTION PENNSYLVANIA ANONYMOUS:Sheetz is petitioning to end the ridiculous blue laws in PA that prohibit the sale of alcohol at 24 hour convenience stores.Go to http://www.freemybeer.com/petition.aspxand sign the petitionI'm not asking for a personal army, I'm sharing this information and suggesting that anyone who reads this and thinks anything between "awh HELL yeah" to "meh, sure" go and sign this thing. Join the fight to liberate beer sales in Pennsylvania.
ATTENTION PENNSYLVANIA ANONYMOUS:Sheetz is petitioning to end the ridiculous blue laws in PA that prohibit the sale of alcohol at 24 hour convenience stores.
Go to http://www.freemybeer.com/petition.aspxand sign the petition
I'm not asking for a personal army, I'm sharing this information and suggesting that anyone who reads this and thinks anything between "awh HELL yeah" to "meh, sure" go and sign this thing. Join the fight to liberate beer sales in Pennsylvania.
Oh BAWWWW, no 24 hours sale of alcohol? I don't give a shit. In my country they close the sale at 18'o clock. Weekends it's 16'o clock.
>>108956Those aren't even real times, gb2 fairy land, you little fairy.
>>10895818=6pm, 16=4pm.I was using 24 hour clock standard. -_-
>>10895818=6pm, 16=4pm.
I was using 24 hour clock standard. -_-
>>108956PA has other laws that are retarded. I agree 24 hour liquor isn't necessary, but PA has so many other stupid laws. It's unbelievable. The entire east coast is retarded.
>>108956
PA has other laws that are retarded. I agree 24 hour liquor isn't necessary, but PA has so many other stupid laws. It's unbelievable. The entire east coast is retarded.
>>108958troll, or just stupid?'>>108956whut?what unenlightened land of oppression and woe is this?
>>108958troll, or just stupid?
'>>108956whut?what unenlightened land of oppression and woe is this?