I know too little about everything else

why the fuck are people putting ireland and the uk together?

>>128619

>as if you really didn't know why, and weren't flaunting your percieved superior knowledge of the differences between the two countries.

>>128620

>I'm buthurt cus someone called out my ignorence

A map of the USA with all the places that matter colored.
Green = New York, where many movies are filmed in
Blue = Los Angeles, where all the movie makers reside
Red = Washington DC, where the legal arm of the movie industry resides in

The rest of the space is reserved for the hillbillies, black people, McDonalds workers and other poor ghetto shit.

The States produce a lot of propaganda but that's about all they produce these days.

>>128558
What? When did I say that?

I said that a high school diploma isn't enough to get a job with a high enough income to pay for private healthcare, or to get job benefits, which is true. Did I say the word suck? I don't think I said the word suck.

However, you suck.

>>128549
My thoughts exactly.

>>128558
Higher education is provided by universities which essentially operate as nonprofit trusts. The few capitalist ones that do profit from people are terrible quality and won't get you a job anywhere.

> isn't enough to get a job with a high enough income to pay for private healthcare, or to get job benefits, which is true.

so it doesnt do what it should/you wan't it to do... but it doesnt suck?

>>128558
l2specialization

I'm quite tired of American politics. It's like a bad reality television show. Will someone please just blow something up, causing economic damage in order to foster actual change and reform? Blowing up the Statue of Liberty would be rather fitting, considering the current state of your country.

>>128615
Of course I'm joking when I suggest someone do that.

>cute little labels
>two words later:
>fright-wing

Seriously? I mean...just...wow.

These people are hilarious. They don't have the faintest idea of what they stand for..their entire thought process so far is "hey the right is doing this thing, we should do it too!"

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>>128615
Joe Stacks, an hero to us all.

>>128572

>>no one thinks a handful

When a their numbers eventually outgrow a handful, it creates diversity. Even if their numbers are not near equal with the natives, their cultural presence will often create a significant impact on the national culture, which creates "multiculturalism". How far does this idea of diversity being a destructive weakness go? What about natives who deny the cultural values, tradition, and national identity? Counter-cultures, Sub-cultures, new religions among natives, new ideas among natives, etc. This all is inevitable without some type of regime to enforce it's idea of cultural values and national identity upon the population to root out any sign of people attacking, ignoring, rewriting or throwing out those cultural values & that national identity. Face this fact, it's near impossible to have a population with no diversity without totalitarianism; People will have differing ideas, religions, values, outlooks, musical tastes, cultural tastes, etc. If you don't care about this type of difference, then it leads me to believe you are some sort of a white supremacist who only focuses on the differences in terms of skin-tone (only because you talk of those race diversities while ignoring any other forms of it).

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>>128586

>When a their numbers eventually outgrow a handful, it creates diversity.

You're assuming that they will, which is a faulty assumption. Population %s are easily maintained.

>Even if their numbers are not near equal with the natives, their cultural presence will often create a significant impact on the national culture, which creates "multiculturalism".

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True state of nature humans have no war, and rarely murder (as seen with the isolated tribes in africa that live as early humans did). Agriculture and pastoral based societies do kill each other all the time inter and intra tribally, and will probably continue to until our end when they burn out the ecosystem and end the mammal age.

Its a symptom of the dying way of life we are all a part of. No argument.

>>128588

>>You're assuming that they will, which is a faulty assumption.

If not they will often have some sort of influence on the "native" culture. Which is what I was claiming.

>>Multiculturalism is the acceptance or promotion of multiple ethnic cultures,
>>the acceptance or promotion of multiple ethnic cultures

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>Don't get me wrong though I'm not a hippie, I love to fight, I love SLAYER and I hate commies.

I loled

we're obviously not being told the whole story, that doesn't mean the US government did it themselves, that's just retarded

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Almost as bad as the Zeitgeist people.

>>128562
I was signaling a degree of agreement with the other poster. Also, I love you.

>>128564
i am that poster. My ip changes. Anyway i said monopolies are natural and then a laughed at people that said free markets didn't create monopolies.

>Please note I am using free markets in their original meaning (eg Adam Smith) rather than Austrian fucktardedness.

this is so stupid i shit up in my mouth.

>>128542
http://mises.org/humanaction/chap16sec6.asp
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/whyaust.htm
They would be difficult to create / maintain, but not impossible.

>>128608

For all intents and purposes they are an impossibility, for example, it would be impossible for a company like Walmart to exist the way it does now in a free market.

>>128581

>Cultures differ. The only similarity you're noticing is Christianity and Skin-tone which is further proof that this is a racially charged issue for you.

Oh I never said it wasn't. But once again it has nothing to do with skin tone. The fact that mestizos are of a different race is simply ONE of the issues I have with them immigrating here.

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>>128584

>>accounted for 47% of all gang members

Yes, while you can say most gang members are Hispanic that doesn't conclude that most Hispanics are gang members. So you can't generalize an entire ethnic group based on those statistics alone.

>>While they are welfare and service leeches to the point of being a net drain on the economy

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>>128597

>Yes, while you can say most gang members are Hispanic that doesn't conclude that most Hispanics are gang members. So you can't generalize an entire ethnic group based on those statistics alone.

"Generalization" would imply that it isn't true. Of course most hispanics aren't gang members, but most gang members are hispanics. They also commit more crime than whites and are even more under educated than blacks.

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>>128597
Oh and just to clarify something, I do agree with you on this -

>These sources are proof that we are all being fucked over by the wealthy business interests.

One race, human race.

To have an enforced legal tender that acts as a form of liquid credit and has value dependant on the public trust is not a libertarian ideal (although it isn't an anti-libertarian one either) but is a core part of the Capitalist mechanism. While impromptu trade currencies have always existed (diamonds, cocaine, gold) they don't allow for the same level of fluidity as a system of credit. Libertarianism can exist with or without standardized currency and therefore is not synonymous with market capitalism.

Both are pretty groovy though.

True capitalism has no governance. It's more of a law of nature.

>>128587
I agree that the state will uphold the benefits of the elite more so than the masses, however the role it plays is central to upholding social order and as such will please both sides in order to achieve this aim. In a way the state acts as power broker, making sure that while those at the top get to keep their advantage, those at the bottom also have enough opportunity to be able to achieve wealth and power themselves. It isn't a negligible function of government.

>>128596

>>upholding social order

Yeah, the social order based on the concentration of wealth and power into a few hands. Just as the state was upholding the racist social order in history. The order is only threatened when there is rampant exploitation, inequality, atrocities, etc. home and abroad. For example, say we announced we were going to invade Iran; A pretty large amount of people would possibly be ready to chase the private interests that supported/caused/ that war out of their cities. The people would threaten the social order that supports the military industrial complex. So to say the least, they'll have a lot of national guard and crowd control police on hand.

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>>128606
yes the need to placate the masses is a vital means of upholding elite standing and the hierarchical social order, but the state doesn't do this simply because it wants to exploit the weak and prop up the strong. giving concessions is the easiest way to achieve political, social and economic stability. I don't think this is an ideological point, but rather the psychology of humans trying to co-operate with one another.

no doubt it is worse to be powerless and poor. but in any system, being powerless and poor is bad. i'm not convinced that in the absence of a state structure the lowly would be necessarily any more empowered, nor the upper classes any less dominant.

Fear is a great way to get people to not want to understand things properly. pic related

>>128483
go on then

>>128488
There's no point because you're in a trolling mood and you'll just deny everything I have to say.

>>128469
>>128472
Most of the wealth is inherited, fucktards. And I was totally correct in saying that most of the drones supporting our system aren't being benefited by it. Most are lower-middle, middle class workers who have never and will never be given the time of day to touch this family money no matter how smart they are, and you won't either. We've hardly left the dark ages economically.

>>128409

Maybe because the USSR referred to themselves as a "Socialist" state run by a "Communist" party. Back then they didn't have the interwebs to look up what these really were, and there were laws banning sales of any books about communism. This is less of an excuse today, but still in effect.

>>128563

>Legitimate discussion
>National ID cards being proposed by democrats
>lol

Do you find it funny? Well when people were talking about warrantless wiretaps and indefinite detention years ago I wouldn't have thought it part of a "legitimate discussion" either but then again here we are today. Not so unforeseeable in today's world.

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Just link them to The Young Turks and Huffington Post and hope for the best.

kill them

>>128563
It's hardly possible to just "report the facts" because then you have someone in the background deciding which facts are newsworthy and which ones aren't. At least with commentators you know that you are getting different perspectives and more importantly you know where the particular perspective is coming from.

The main difference between Fox News and MSNBC besides the fact that they are the complete opposite sides of the spectrum.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,584998,00.html

"The difference is that the Ouija board is actually is a portal to talk to spirits and it's hard to get people to understand that until they actually do it. I don't pretend to know how it works, but it actually does."

At first it just seems like they are ignorantly reporting about hasbro marketing t young girls, then it goes on to say that ouija boards open your soul to spirits and shit.

So where's all this "change" I keep hearing about?

>>128498

There is no change if we continue to allow this entire power structure to exist, and channel our political action into voting rather than real action. If McCain would have won, we'd probably see more political tension (not that they politicians are the ones in control, but McCain wasn't marketed as a change, so he represented the system in its original form, which people were fed up with. Obama was marketed as a changing of that system). Don't worry though, Apathy and Inaction won't be permanent. When shit hits the fan like it is in Greece right now, people will stand up.

>>128500
Step up and cry for their entitlements! Socialism, fuck yeah!

>>128537

Wat?

>>128537
Capitalism is/has become a corrupt elitest system, and I'm guessing you're not even one of the few elites ultimately benefitting, and I'd be surprised if you've even been affected negatively by the new tax policies yet. Keep drinking the kool aid, though.

anarchy = freedom

>>128505
nobody is trolling. you don't even know this basic shit about arguments.

>>128337

Has nothing to do with being an ideology. The statement
"State of nature doesn't exist"
is irrelevant. The point is not that it exists, is a reference to the argument for clarification about the point being made.

ex:
Claim: Pure Collectivism is LIKE the borg from Star Trek

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>>128540
Both collectivism and democracy are political ideologies. They include many different facets and so can be broken down into more fundamental parts.

Freedom is not a political ideology and it cannot be broken down.

Also your examples are fucking retarded. Democracy has nothing to do with willingness, it's people rule. This literally meant in ancient Greece that random people would be assigned jobs in government.

>>128540
Except if a "state of nature" is just an ideal then it's not a state of nature.