>>106623
"Why, how can you ask such a question? You are a republican."
"A republican! Yes; but that word specifies nothing. Res publica; that is, the public thing. Now, whoever is interested in public affairs – no matter under what form of government – may call himself a republican. Even kings are republicans."
"Well! You are a democrat?"
"No."
"What! You would have a monarchy?"
"No."

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>>106602
Still pretty fucking far away. Regarding things like propositions in California:

I see this as a problem with referenda and initiatives within parliamentary democratic states and not direct political participation. The issue of gay marriage itself isn't something that is actually important to and debated by the people that possess power in this country. Rather, it is important to the people who show the legacy of a failed secular education system, something handled by inculpable bureaucrats and representatives who have a demonstrable interest in keeping people angry and going to the polls to vote on things that don't affect their lives whatsoever, again. Hence, the issue is tacked onto more encompassing representative platforms as a kind of political capital.

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>>106623
If you don't know the difference between the U.S. republic and a democracy just get out of this thread. please.

>>106661
Oh I don't disagree. 'Spose I was just making a cheap shot at California, as I live through its nonsense everyday.

>>106753
Stop using the word republic idiot, now you start putting us republic in a thin attempt at changing the goal posts. Of course the US is a republic, it doesn't have a fucking monarchy. No amount of your American retardation will change the meaning of that word.

How's this? All drugs should be legal. People that do stupid shit on drugs should be held accountable for it, not the drug.

To >>106094 the vagueness of the term "criminal behavior" is far to broad to have the proven causation of cocaine use. Since cocaine is already, you know, "criminal" in most of western civilization.

>>106094
Yeah just as much as you can draw a link between fast food and violent behaviour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crO8WVtY_fA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKvy2Oyhcs
Time to ban all lipids and sugars because people want them too much.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Kokain_-_Cocaine.svg
This right here whether it contains a HCL on it or not does make anyone assault you. The main thing it does is increase dopamine concentration in your brain, and neither does this goddamn thing http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Dopamine2.svg force anyone to rob any stores.

The thing that a lot of people don't get is that it's not the removal of HCL what makes crack cocaine be what it is but instead the stigma and popular notions of freebase cocaine.

What I mean is that the observed effects of drug use ever rarely are inherent effects of the molecule, and even if they were, in my opinion there still wouldn't be any need to force people not to use them.
I just don't see myself asserting the sort of ownership over everyone else that I get to decide what they want to do.

>>106749
Nobody cares what yo think, you just want to get high. You'd say anything to get your fix.

>>106140
That's true for all drugs
I didn't make any spelling errors
The sentence structure was fine.

>>106687
NEDM, brah.

>>106690
your mother is

>>106673
There is no such thing as "competition for labor amongst employers". That's why unemployment exists. Workers quite strictly don't just move to other places that offer them better pay, because those places are and would be fantasy. A compassionate capitalist who lessens the exploitation his workers face loses profits, which means, because of the tendency of capital to accumulate, that he risks losing his capital to his competitors; his workers will be out of a job. The best he can do is give himself a working wage and divide his personal profits equally amongst the workers, which of course doesn't account for the rest of management's pay. That's about as common as you would expect.

>>106674
Libertarian socialism seeks to minimize coercion and hierarchy by abolishing capitalism and establishing systems of free association and mutual development. I'm not saying it'll get rid of coercion, just the main root of systemic, institutional coercion, which is much more pressing.

>>106532

THIS, you anarcho-socialist faggots, respond to this man!

>>106600
And then you break one of those obnoxious rules and get sent to prison.

>>106604

the martyr is one who does what he believes is right and accepts the consequences.

>>106610

Interesting concept of martyrdom.

>>106610
eh... no thanks. I'd rather we work to make laws fair.

I been breakin the law since the day I was born, and I aint been made a martyr yet!

PS You do realize that more than likely each and every one of you breaks at least one law a day?

>>106666
Japan has the same problems that other 1st world countries with immigration have, a growing underclass.

i am pleased with the islamic invasion of europe

was only a matter of time until our cousins across the sea tasted a bit of their own medicine

we have our occasional fort hood etc etc but more than 12 euopeans are killed by muslims in every EU country every month im sure

you scum bowed to the greek gods, then wotan, then christ, and now you will bow to mohammed

>>106699
I'm aware. It's not hard to find an Iranian in Tokyo working for the mafia or is otherwise homeless, selling drugs or hacked phone cards to survive. A lot of them live under bridges and things. It's my understanding they had come during the 1980's when Japan invited them to immigrate for work, and many of them chose to stay rather than go back to the now-Islamic Republic of Iran. I've been to the ghettos where many East Asian immigrants and Indians live, seemingly marginalized and pushed away from everyone else.

Of course Japan has immigration problems but because Japan is so largely homogeneously Japanese, it's not that big of an issue except to right-wingers who are more phased by the Westernization of their country than third-world laborers. Society generally deals with them as you would expect; that's why many ethnic Koreans or other people made to feel like outcasts within such a largely conformist society make up a lot of the mafia guys. With the recession and unemployment, I'm not sure what the present situation is there now since I haven't been since then, but I haven't gathered that immigrants from the third-world make much of an issue in Japan. Certainly on no level comparable to the USA or Western Europe.

>>106699
Japan's population is shrinking you dolt.

>>106739
What a retarded statement to make.

In Australia if the victim & perp, or maybe if only just one, is Aboriginal and they both agree the punishment can be handled through 'Traditional Law'.
So a while back a guy in the Northern Territory charged with vehicular manslaughter was speared in each leg a dozen times & his ankles were broken.

>>106724
Why would he agree to that?

>>106727
Abbos aren't known for their intelligence.

>>106727
beats jail time I guess

>>106639

Domestic abuse is a civil matter?

We have ice ages for a reason. Theres no point in wasting money on "preventing climate change" because we can't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0

There's the whole speech, if anyone's interested. Some intriguing stuff in there.

>>106722
Fuck, I'm surrounded by pussies.
Pussies that own an air conditioner and either don't understand how it works or worship and fear it.
Guys, it's an air Conditioner, it doesn't feel it when I flip the switch....

oh no obama is going to sell america damn socialist commie nigger etc.

>>106738
Actually I'm just concerned that we're making obligations to cut business productivity to pollute less when we have already doubled our base money supply in the last year. When are we going to stop abusing the money machine? It can't go on forever, you have to face the bust at some point.

>>106557

Probably why you still don't know anytrhing, cause you always stop reading when there's something you dont wanna hear, HAHAHA LOL

just curious but how much cash does Chomsky rake in off his books, or does he provide his books free? how much does he collect from giving speeches, or are those as well, given freely?

if indeed he does profit from his labor, then how much of his wealth does it fan out to the unfortunate and impoverished people of the world?

or is his a massive hypocritical sophist like everyone else?

>>106732

email and ask him. im with you though. if he gave the majority of the profits he made off his books to charity he'd solve global poverty

>>106745

He's been asked that before in emails and responded generally saying "I don't see why it matters entirely, and it is never stable with one number. I ask that most of the money be directed to something like OXFAM instead of me, etc.)

>>106732

>how much cash does Chomsky rake in off his books, or does he provide his books free?

If you check the copyright on the books, but you're too fucking lazy for even that I guess, you'll see most of them are registered to trusts for his kids & grandkids. And I'm sure these earn tens of millions, putting Dan Brown and Stephen King and J.K. Rowling to shame.

>how much does he collect from giving speeches, or are those as well, given freely?

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>>106706
the federal 14th amendment can override any state-level amendments. whether it applies to gay marriage is up to the court.

>>106696
is this thread about nationalistic pissing-contests? no? then stop.

>>106688
I know it's fundamentally a contract, but people in the United States consider it to be religious ceremony with divine sanctity. That is where that whole "sanctity of marriage" argument against same-sex marriage comes from. Otherwise, yes, if it was considered the contract it really is, then there would be no debate over this. Who else but the religious communities campaigns against same-sex marriage?

you know, in florida its part of our state constitution to ban gay marriages. I believe the exact wording is "thou shalt not fag" or something like that.

This surprised the shit out of miami.

>>106495
True, however people need to hear about this to remind them that roughly half of our country are borderline retarded christfags.

They ran commercials here saying that the current law was pushing homosexuality on children, and apparently over 50% of the population here believed it. That's the kind of shit that can make anyone feel a bit of misanthropy.

>>106735
In California, we had non-stop TV and radio commercials about how public schools will be forced to include gay marriage in our grade school curriculum unless Prop 8 passes to "protect families". Of course, the man in charge of public schools in California had to interrupt his job to come out and make a statement about how there is no curriculum about marriage in general, but most people believe lies than keep informed with facts. It's the same tactic with health care: repeat over and over that Obama is going to "take away" your health care, kill your grandparents, and rationed care. Why do they repeat lies? Because it works and most Americans are either too stupid or too busy to keep informed.

>>106718
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

Don't you just hate Americans and their inability to learn English

>>106718
http://tinyurl.com/yejvprv

>>106633

Cartelization leads to oligopoly, oligopoly leads monopoly, monopoly leads to inefficient (and possibly) inequitable supply of goods and services.

When I say firm I mean collective, and this is exactly the case, of maintaining the syndicate when one collective or firm wants to leave.

We can use whatever words you like, but the fact is some collectives will want to convince consumers to freely associate with them more than they do with other collectives and will be more convincing because they have the skill, technology, business acumen or work ethic that makes them more convincing.

>>106730
The very model of consensus management ensures cartelization is an effective impossibility.

>>106721

Looks like the "anti" one's came first. LOL Y U GUISE MAD THO?????!!??

shameless self bump/

It doesn't make a difference, the only thing that matters is if it's completely legal or not completely legal and at present it's not completely legal, this won't change anything.