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-What is MDMA?

MDMA is 3,4 Methlynedioxymethamphetamine, commonly known as Ecstasy. Ecstasy is the street name for MDMA, and any drug being sold as MDMA could be called Ecstasy. This document will deal primarily with the chemical MDMA, and secondarily with the phenomenon of the street drug Ecstasy.

-What is MDMA’s method of action? (How does it work?)

MDMA primarily causes an increase in the concentrations of three neurotransmitters. They are serotonin (5HT), norepinephrine (NE), and dopamine (DA). The effects sought by most MDMA users result from the massive increase in the presence of 5HT in the certain synapses.

The two leading theories for how this happens are:

  1. MDMA enters the axon terminal via the 5-HT reuptake transporters, and then prompts vesicles to flood the synapse with serotonin.
  2. MDMA causes the 5-HT reuptake transporters to work in reverse, simultaneously stopping reuptake and dumping serotonin into the synapse.

Regardless of how the serotonin gets there, it then binds with 5HT receptors and causes the effects that it does.

-How much should I take?

MDMA is commonly sold in pill form, and it is difficult to know how much of the drug it actually contains. From this Erowid page:

(http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_dose.shtml)

Trying to calculate dosages from tablets containing unknown quantities of MDMA can be difficult, but a good quality tablet of street ecstasy generally contains an average of between 75 and 100 mg MDMA.

The studies done by Dr. Shuglin indicate that 100-120mg will work for almost anyone, although Erowid claims that some people may require upwards of 200mg in order to have a full-blown MDMA experience.

Most beginners would be best off starting with a dose in the 100mg range (ie: a single pill).

-How stable is MDMA?

MDMA is very stable. There are no know cases of MDMA “going bad,” and Erowid seems to confirm this sentiment:

(http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=1768)

-What is the best way to store it?

Any dry, well-hidden place will do. Think pill bottles, only less conspicuous.

-MDMA Powder

MDMA powder is sometimes referred to as "molly" which is short for molecule.

>> No.23404  

B. Capsules

Occasionally, MDMA powder is measured, placed in gelatine capsules and sold without being pressed into a pill. The powder in the capsules may be cut or uncut.

C. Tablets

By far the most common form of MDMA, the pressed pill or tablet appears in many shapes, sizes, and colours.

To see global reports on the contents of pills and people's reactions to them, please visit(http://www.pillreports.com/)

Pills contain a significant amount of binders and fillers in addition to any active substance(s) they may contain. Weighing a pill will not give an accurate indication of how much of an active substance it contains.

  1. Brands

Because pills appear in so many variations, they are often given a "brand name" based on their colour, logo, etc. For instance, a pill may be referred to as a "white Euro." Many people attempt to judge a pill by its brand name, rather than using a testing kit. Making a judgement based on brand names is not a reliable method for determining whether a pill is safe to take.

However, this can be an effective way to get the word out about a dangerous pill that contains toxic adulterants or simply isn't MDMA.; since copycats of bad pills are rarely made.

*Stamps or Logos

The presses that manufactures use to make the powder MDMA into a pill often have a stamp inside that places a logo on each pill as it is pressed. Often these logos are cartoons, or the logos and trademarks of well known corporations. A pill that was popular for a long time was called the "Mitsubishi" and had a picture of Mitsubishi Motors logo stamped on it.

*Bevelled Edge
Some pills are pressed with a stamp that places a bevel on the edge. This just means there is an indented ring around the edge of the pill.

*Domed
Pills can be domed on neither, either or both sides.

*Scored
It is not uncommon for a pill to have a break line down the middle of one or both sides. Usually the score is on the side opposite the logo. Sometimes the score will get thicker towards the middle of the pill. This is referred to as a "cat's eye". It is not unheard of for a pill to have a double-score (a cross) on either or both sides.

*Copycats

When a pill of a specific brand begins to be sold on the market, other pill manufacturers will often begin to press pills that appear similar or identical. This is done especially if the original pill gains a reputation of being potent or of high quality. These copycats can contain no drug, a drug other than MDMA, a combination of drugs (sometimes dangerous combinations), or poor quality MDMA. Copycats are the reason that even brands of high repute should not be trusted, and always tested.

>> No.23405  

*Double/Triple Stack
Ecstasy users and dealers sometimes refer to a pill as double or triple stacked in order to make it sound like it is especially good. While this is supposed to mean that a pill is twice or three times the thickness of an "average" ecstasy pill (and therefore more potent), it actually means nothing. First, there is no such thing as an "average" sized ecstasy pill. They vary widely in size. Second, a pill's size has little to do with how much MDMA it contains, as the majority of most pills size is made up of various binders and fillers. A quick search on ecstasydata.org would turn up many pills of the same size with different contents, or of different sizes, but with the same contents.

*What gets sold as Ecstasy that isn't MDMA?

Note – Many of these adulterants illustrate the dangers involved when taking multiple pills with unknown contents. While a single dose may just result in a bad trip, multiple/combined doses can result in serious and possibly fatal health complications.

For more information on any given adulterant, start by checking

Bluelight: (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/home.php)

Erowid: http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml

Lycaeum: (http://leda.lycaeum.org/Chemicals/index-all.shtml)

The Marquis, Mandelin, and Mecke reagents are all capable of distinguishing between MDMA and other substances, thus saving you the hassle of having to worry so much about this section. All of these kits are discreetly and internationally available from EZTest.
(http://www.eztest.com/shop/)

-MDA/MDE

MDA and MDE seem to produce effects that are very similar to MDMA. Many people report MDA to be “speedier” and MDE to de “dopier” than MDMA. Erowid indicates that relative to MDMA, MDE requires a slightly larger dose and MDA is effective in a slightly smaller dose. Simon’s reagent will discriminate between MDA and MDMA.

-Amphetamine, Methamphetamine

(Meth)Amphetamine will produce stimulatory effects that are noticeably different from MDMA. Large oral doses of methamphetamine may produce an intense empathy (and other “loved up” feelings) very similar to that of MDMA. CNS and cardiopulmonary excitement will probably be more noticeable. Higher doses of (meth)amphetamine can produce uncomfortable skittishness, elevated vitals, irritability and nausea.

-Ephedrine

Ephedrine will produce stimulant effects that are not as intense as amphetamines, but are greater than those of caffeine. Ephedrine alone will not produce auditory or visual hallucinations. High doses of ephedrine have caused anxiety, uncomfortable hyperactivity and hyperthermia.

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-Ketamine

Ketamine is a dissociative anaesthetic. Large enough oral doses can lead to a K-hole, but the amount required (350+mgs) makes this somewhat unlikely. More likely is that the user will experience an unpleasant disconnected and confused sensation. Perhaps the best non-health reason to be concerned about ketamine is that is produces an effect that is very unlike MDMA.

Related Myths

Note – Sometimes people send "bogus" pills to analytical testers. Basically someone will add an adulterant to press up a single bogus pill with the intention of creating or furthering a myth (sort of like people who put razor blades or needles in Halloween candy).

  1. Ecstasy contains heroin

Status: Basically a myth

There have only been one or two pills that tested positive for heroin. A search on ecstasydata.org would confirm this. If someone says they felt ‘smacky’, and blames this on heroin in the pill, they are mistaken. The effects were caused by another drug, possibly ketamine or MDE.

2. The colour/appearance of a pill is indicative of its contents.
Status: Untrue

The colour/appearance of the pill means absolutely nothing.

3. Ecstasy contains mescaline
Status: Untrue

No pills have ever been tested and shown to contain mescaline. A search on ecstasydata.org would confirm this.

Mescaline is incredibly hard to get hold of – there is absolutely no way that someone would waste it by selling it as Ecstasy. If someone had mescaline, they would sell it to people who wanted to buy mescaline. Furthermore, an active dose of mescaline would not fit in a pill.

4. Ecstasy contains LSD
Status: Untrue

A search on ecstasydata.org returns no hits for LSD. This suggests that, if LSD is ever found in pills, it is found very rarely. Hallucinations are possible on high doses of MDMA. However, major hallucinations are more likely to be due to the presence of some adulterant in the pill – MDA is a strong possibility.

5. Pills contain crushed glass
Status: Untrue

No pills have ever been tested and shown to contain glass. When the root source for this claim was tracked down, it turned out to be a dodgy and self proclaimed manufacturer who produced zero evidence to support his claim.

>> No.23407  

-Ketamine

Ketamine is a dissociative anaesthetic. Large enough oral doses can lead to a K-hole, but the amount required (350+mgs) makes this somewhat unlikely. More likely is that the user will experience an unpleasant disconnected and confused sensation. Perhaps the best non-health reason to be concerned about ketamine is that is produces an effect that is very unlike MDMA.

Related Myths

Note – Sometimes people send "bogus" pills to analytical testers. Basically someone will add an adulterant to press up a single bogus pill with the intention of creating or furthering a myth (sort of like people who put razor blades or needles in Halloween candy).

  1. Ecstasy contains heroin

Status: Basically a myth

There have only been one or two pills that tested positive for heroin. A search on ecstasydata.org would confirm this. If someone says they felt ‘smacky’, and blames this on heroin in the pill, they are mistaken. The effects were caused by another drug, possibly ketamine or MDE.

2. The colour/appearance of a pill is indicative of its contents.
Status: Untrue

The colour/appearance of the pill means absolutely nothing.

3. Ecstasy contains mescaline
Status: Untrue

No pills have ever been tested and shown to contain mescaline. A search on ecstasydata.org would confirm this.

Mescaline is incredibly hard to get hold of – there is absolutely no way that someone would waste it by selling it as Ecstasy. If someone had mescaline, they would sell it to people who wanted to buy mescaline. Furthermore, an active dose of mescaline would not fit in a pill.

4. Ecstasy contains LSD
Status: Untrue

A search on ecstasydata.org returns no hits for LSD. This suggests that, if LSD is ever found in pills, it is found very rarely. Hallucinations are possible on high doses of MDMA. However, major hallucinations are more likely to be due to the presence of some adulterant in the pill – MDA is a strong possibility.

5. Pills contain crushed glass
Status: Untrue

No pills have ever been tested and shown to contain glass. When the root source for this claim was tracked down, it turned out to be a dodgy and self proclaimed manufacturer who produced zero evidence to support his claim.

>> No.23408  

6. Ecstasy is a mixture of heroin and cocaine
Status: Untrue

True Ecstasy is MDMA. It’s a completely separate chemical; it has nothing to do with either heroin or cocaine either chemically or in its effects. Pills sold as Ecstasy may contain substances which aren’t MDMA. PMA, ketamine, DXM, caffeine, speed, MDA, and MDEA are all found in pills sold as Ecstasy. Heroin and cocaine are almost never found in pills sold as Ecstasy, and have never been found in the same pill.

7. Ecstasy contains rat poison
Status : Almost a myth

One pill in Holland wa
s tested and found to contain rat poison, although this was probably a result of contamination. Reports that large numbers of pills have been found with rat poison in them are a myth. The root source for this myth was the same as for the crushed glass myth.

*Methods of Administration

-Oral
This is the most commonly used method and involves placing the pill in your mouth and swallowing. Oral administration is the safest method of consumption, as the body was designed to consume nutrients orally and has some natural filters in place (ie. Liver, GI tract, etc.)

Oral Variant - Bombing or Parachuting
Bombing/parachuting a pill means crushing a pill into powder and placing it in a small amount of tissue paper or a cigarette paper before swallowing. Because the pill is already broken up, stomach acids wont have to break the pill down so the effects begin more quickly and sometimes more intensely. A pill that has been broken down into powder can also be placed in a capsule for similar effect.

Sublingual

Sublingual administration involves placing the pill beneath your tongue and leaving it there as it dissolves. Sublingual administration is sometimes preferred because the drug will initially bypass your digestive system. By denying your body its customary “first pass” metabolism, the effects will be stronger. Due to the nasty taste this may leave in your mouth, most people seeking the effects of sublingual administration will opt for rectal administration (plugging).

-Plugging

Plugging is rectal administration, or putting it up your bum.

Plugging is more effective than swallowing or snorting, because the inside of the anus is lined with a thin membrane. The drug is quickly absorbed through the membrane directly into the bloodstream.

There are two ways to plug: a pill can be crushed and placed in a capsule or plugged as it is. Powder in a capsule usually absorbs more quickly as pills can be hard pressed and not break down as easily.

Most users only find plugging slightly uncomfortable. Once inside the anus, the pill should slide up easily. It will be less effective if it doesn't go as far as the second knuckle on the index finger. Users should go to the toilet before hand. Plugging may cause an urge to use the bathroom. It needs to be held until the pill has taken effect. Placing a condom over the finger is a very effective way of plugging as the lube from the condom helps and it's also more hygienic.

>> No.23409  

*Different Stages of Effects

For most people, the MDMA experience is a long slow arc, building up slowly, reaching a plateau, with a long gradual comedown. Other people have nearly instant come-ups and comedowns, peaking almost as soon as the drug takes effect, then suddenly sobering up.

  1. Comeup

When someone takes MDMA there is a period of time where he/she gradually comes up. The speed with which this process happens is affected by many variables, including method of ingestion, how the pill was pressed, the user's metabolism, and whether or not the user has eaten.

A come up could start after 15 minutes or it could be over an hour. The user will gradually start to feel the effects spread throughout his/her body. It is not uncommon for people to be nauseous during this time or even vomit.

2. Peak

The peak is when MDMA's effects are at their most intense. For some users this is a long plateau, for others it is a series of "rushes" in which they come up, then back down again.

3. Comedown

As the effects of MDMA wear off, the users will find themselves feeling tired, sore and sometimes grouchy. For some users, there will be an urge to take more. What the user did during their experience, how they took care of their body, and how much they consumed will have some effect on how they comedown.

4. Afterglow

Some users find that for up to several days after an MDMA experience, they feel happy and in a good mood. This is more common in occasional users, and those who have not used more than a few times.

Some people, however, experience a "crash" when they come down from MDMA. Crashing is a term referring to all the negative feelings that some users feel after coming down from the drug. This can include lack of energy, weak or sore muscles, depression, nausea, mental fuzziness and being overly sleepy or unable to sleep. For some users the crash is immediate, and such a dramatic change in mood that it overwhelms them. Such users may find themselves weepy, or frightened.

*Effects of MDMA

A. Empathy

One of the main reasons people use MDMA is to experience the empathy it creates. Empathy is the ability to share the feelings of another person. For many users, this creates a feeling of deep bond, or love. Because of its nature as an empathogen, MDMA will often help users deal with problems in their relationships and personal lives, especially in the beginning. This can create an illusion that everything is perfect, even when it isn't.

B. Euphoria

Most users get feelings of extreme happiness, a sense that everything is right in the world, and often feelings of love for everyone around them. The latter is also referred to as being "loved-up."

C. Physical Effects

People feel different things when on MDMA. Some get a tingling, that begins behind their ears and spreads all over their bodies. For others, it is like becoming made of gelatine, they "puddle" wherever they are, utterly relaxed and loose. Most people get stimulated, often feeling bursts of energy racing through their bodies. Because MDMA raises the body's temperature, it is common to feel warm, or even hot and flushed.

>> No.23410  

*MDMA Use Over Time

For many users, the first few weeks/months of MDMA use feel like the best time in their entire lives. For about the first ten to fifty times, they have a great roll every time, and the after effects are generally negligible. Because most users have an afterglow for a day or two, often they don't connect the negative side effects (like depression) to their use.

Instead, it may seem like life just isn't as good when they aren't rolling. Tuesday through Thursday will crawl by, as they wait for the weekend when they can take more. If they begin to build a tolerance - or get more and more impatient between uses - they don't notice.

Many people say that moderation is the key to enjoying MDMA over long periods of time. The negative side effects tend to be less dramatic if you avoid frequent and/or heavy use. The majority of users, especially those who do not moderate their usage, eventually stop enjoying their rolls as much.

Often, the empathy and euphoria disappear, leaving only the speedy and negative effects. For others, they simply require larger and larger doses, for less effect. Some people find that if they stop using for a period of time, from several months to several years, the "magic" comes back. Many users, however, are never again able to feel the way they once did.

Loss of Magic
(http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects_lossofmagic1.shtml)

*What are the immediate side effects?

A. Why do my eyes wiggle (nystagmus)?

The temporary eye wiggling experienced by MDMA users seems to be linked to feelings of nausea. Nystagmus can be brought on by feelings of nausea or motion sickness.

B.Why do I get nauseous or vomit?

MDMA-related nausea has a number of causes:

* Inhibited digestion – The more blood your body sends to your muscles to do their work (dancing, running around, etc), the less blood will be sent to your gastrointestinal tract to do its work. This inhibits digestion, meaning that whatever you are eating/drinking is more or less amassing in your stomach.
* Dehydration – Dehydration can trigger queasiness, either because your body is in distress or because the dehydration is exasperating already present problems.
* Bodily distress – When your body senses that it’s in trouble, digestion quickly falls down the list of autonomic priorities.
* Flood of serotonin - The majority of the serotonin receptor sites in your body are located in your digestive system. The flood of serotonin that reaches these sites (5HT3 sites) may cause nausea or vomiting.

C. Why does my jaw clench?

There is a nerve in the jaw called the trigeminal nerve, which is responsible for innervating the jaw. This nerve is especially sensitive to changing levels of (among other things) serotonin.

D. Why do I have trouble urinating?

MDMA promotes the release of anti-diuretic hormone (ADH). ADH is responsible for regulating urination. If more ADH is released, urination will not be as forthcoming.

E. Why do my pupils dilate and my heart race?

MDMA is sympathomimetic, meaning that it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system (think: fight or flight). Two common side effect of this stimulation are pupil dilation and an elevated heart rate. Also consider that if you are dancing or engaged in strenuous activity, this will exacerbate the feeling of heart pounding/racing.

*What are the dangerous side effects?

Caution - The treatments listed for all of these conditions are viable for mild symptoms ONLY. For more severe symptoms, call an ambulance. Every condition listed here can cause death if not properly treated. For all conditions, it is important to stay with the victim until they have recovered or medical assistance arrives.

A. Dehydration

Causes – Dehydration is caused by failure to consume enough fluids to replenish those that have been lost. MDMA-related contributing factors include excessive perspiration, hyperthermia, vomiting, and diarrhoea.

Prevention

* Drink before you are thirsty - thirst is one of the first indicators of dehydration.
* Consume water at a moderate and steady rate – do not pound a bottle all at once or take large gulps.
* Consume drinks that contain sodium, or add table salt to plain water.

Symptoms – Thirst, unusually sunken eyes/cheeks, thick mucous, dry mouth, dark yellow/amber urine, low blood pressure, high heart rate (especially noticeable when resting). Symptoms will often occur in tandem with hyperthermia.

Treatment

* Cease physical activity and find a place to rest.
* Drink 0.5L of water over the next 30mins.
* Continue drinking until fluids have been sufficiently replenished and symptoms cease

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* Be sure to not drink too much too quickly. If you become nauseous and vomit, the situation will become much worse.
* Treat for hyperthermia as necessary.

B. Hyponatremia (water intoxication)

Defenition – Hyponatremia is the condition of having a low blood sodium concentration. This is bad because osmotic pressure will cause water to enter brain cells, causing swelling. This swelling can become severe enough to cause cerebral haemorrhage and death.

Causes – Excessive fluid intake or rapid loss of sodium. Rapid water intake in combination with excessive perspiration and/or vomiting will hasten the onset of hyponatremia.

Prevention – Consume fluids that contain sodium, or couple plain water with salty foods (crackers, pretzels, etc).

Symptoms – Muscle cramps/spasms, confusion, nausea, fatigue, pale skin, impaired response.

Treatment – For mild symptoms, consume sodium via salty foods or drinks (no, that doesn’t mean you can have a margarita).

>> No.23411  

C. Hyperthermia

Causes – Overheating can be caused by physical activity, environment temperature, or an inability of the body to regulate heat as well as usual. One of the possible side effects of MDMA is cutaneous vasoconstriction – this means that the blood vessels closest to the surface of the body constrict. This seriously diminishes the body’s ability to rid itself of excess heat.

Prevention – Proper hydration and period breaks from activity.

Symptoms – Elevated body temperature, lightheadedness, blurred/tunnel vision. Symptoms will often occur in tandem with dehydration.

Treatment

* Cease physical activity.
* Apply cool (but not cold) cloths, packs, or fluids to the forehead, chest, and groin.
* DO NOT USE COLD CLOTHS/PACKS – cooling down the body is good, sending it into shock is bad.
* Treat for dehydration as necessary.

D. Seizures

Causes – It seems that MDMA-related seizures are a symptom of other MDMA-related problems, usually hyperthermia.

Prevention – Follow prevention guidelines for other dangerous side effects.

Treatment – Basically, just wait it out. Most seizures will be over in less than 2 minutes.

* If the person is standing/sitting when the seizure begins, position yourself to catch them if they fall/collapse.
* Do not try to restrain or confine the person.
* Do not try to administer any medication unless otherwise specified (as with diabetics).
* If the person vomits, attempt to position them such that the vomit does not block their airway.
* Clear the area around the person of anything that could cause them injury – sharps, glass, protruding objects, etc.

HELPFUL LINKS:
http://www.bluelight.ru/
http://erowid.org/
http://www.pillreports.com/
http://ecstasy.org/
http://dancesafe.org/

>> No.23468  

bump for respect for the man who spent so much time compiling this

>> No.23474  

bump for sticky

>> No.23488  

Bump out of respect and for sticky

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bump for sticky

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bumping for sticky

>> No.23513  

bumps on my dickie

>> No.23516  

bump for sticky/respect

>> No.23517  

>>23513
you should get that looked at. professionally i mean.

>> No.23543  

poasting in eventual sticky before sticky

>> No.23551  

Yes, bump for sticky. This one is far superior to the other.

>> No.23609  

essentially sticky by bump

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lol sticky

>> No.23635  

bump for sticky

>> No.23636  

sticky wont come
mods suck on /mdma/

>> No.23638  

thanks for the great post, plz sticky

>> No.23644  

bump for sticky :D

>> No.23658  

Me wanty sticky.

>> No.23668  

/sticky

>> No.23684  

>>23636
truth

>> No.23697  

the denizens of this board will do what the useless fucking mods wil not

sticky by bump

>> No.23709  

bump

>> No.23718  

How often is molly actually cut with other drugs?

>> No.23733  

like 75% of the time

>> No.23736  

Can we get a freaking sticky of this?

>> No.23740  

>>23733
molly or pills? source please.

>> No.23761  

>>23740
I would say he is talking about pills, Molly is normally more easy to detect inconsistencies in it so it is not as common practice for it to be "cut" with adulterants. Molly is also usually obtained higher up the drug chain rather than off some street dealers. No specific source, just assorted readings on erowid, dancesafe, and here.

>> No.23765  

>>23761
my point exactly.

>> No.23766  

>>23761
Yes, most people really do not know the difference between molly, mdma, and ecstasy. Ecstasy usually refers to the street pill and any adulterants that are included in it, MDMA refers to the specific drug most people are seeking, while Molly is pure MDMA in powder or crystal form. Molly is short for molecule.

>> No.23767  

>>23766
you're making pointless, pretentious distinctions. MDMA = Ecstasy

Street pills with shit in them = Ecstasy with shit in it.

>> No.23768  

>>23767
Alright well that's how I would consider it at least. Ecstasy is more of the street name for the drug that is available in pill form.

>> No.23769  

>>23766>>23767>>23768
you guys are funny.

>> No.23781  

tl;dr?

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sticky.

>> No.23825  

>>23781
tl;dr: Ecstasy is bad for you, don't do it.

>> No.23829  

Bumping for sticky

>> No.23837  

BUMP!

>> No.23849  

>>23825
It's actually not that harmful to your body if you can control the amount you do.
If you do a normal dose (80-120mg) waiting huge gaps between rolls (like 6 months) you should be fine.

Nothing shows ignorance more than "dont do it, its bad for you"

Although I can agree it isn't GOOD for you, but then again, what is these days?

>> No.23853  

>>23849
It was a joke, I meant anyone not willing to read the entire thing to do it safely and know what they're doing doesn't need to be using it.

>> No.23881  

adding usefull slideshow explanation of how it all works
http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/slide1.html

>> No.23889  

>>23881
nice, i was just looking for something like this. danke.

>> No.23894  

In b4 sticky

>> No.23911  

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>> No.23923  

bump

>> No.23943  

bumping future sticky.

>> No.23968  

bump

>> No.23970  

you know guys, if you contribute something, it has the dual function of bumping as well.

>> No.23979  

Flipping

LSD + Ecstacy = Candyflip
Shrooms + Ecstacy = Hippyflip
Ketamine + Ecstacy = Kittyflip

Everyone has their own opinion on which drug to take first and at what time to maximize their experience of a Flip, but it seems to me that the best option if you are looking for a psychedelic kind of time, take you psy's first then pop the E about an hour or two in, whereas if you are looking for a more euphoric time, with slight reality distortion, take the E first and then the psy's (in a smaller amount - otherwise you'll just be tripping balls by the end)

>> No.23982  

>>23979

You forgot elephant flipping

MDMA and PCP.

Oh man, It makes your PCP trip better, less likely to freak out or it be really unpleasant, But it has to be pure MDMA, cant have meth or speed in it.

>> No.23985  

>>23982
I must say, i'm intrigued by this combination. and loling at the name and how appropriate it is.

>> No.23994  

>>23985

Lol You should try it, Like a moderate dose of PCP so around 5 mg's then at 100 mg's of pure, depending on your tolerance, And you hallusinate more and it's not like scary shit around you it's like trippy shit a little bit more like mushrooms and it's nice.

>> No.24005  

bump

>> No.24058  

sticky bump

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bump for sticky

>> No.24073  

lol we're at a 2:1 stick:bump ratio. keep bumping guys.

>> No.24107  

Bump

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vump

>> No.24137  

bump

and sticky :]

>> No.24138  

Pretty much everything is covered.
Stickied & Locked.



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