>>28049
fuck off this is a chan not english class

anyways this thread is relevant to my interests, i need to read more poetry

One word: Bukowski.

>>28085

No, fuck you. Who cares if this is a chan? That doesn't mean we should all write like stupid 12 years old cunts you noncontributing zero.

>>28049
Damn right.

Hey OP, do your own homework you down-syndrome troglodyte. FUCK I hate lazy, dumb people so much. "bad ass poem's"--go find some "bad ass bullet's" and end yourself.

>>28089
Right on, brother, Amen.

>>28089
you sound like such a bitter basement dweller lol

Shinji approves.

That was shit.

Here's a topic for you: discuss why the word "elitist" is used in a derogative fashion, and by extension the anti-intellectual sentiment that is so widespread these days.

>>28121
Negro please, elitism isn't anything to do with intellectualism. Elitism involves the privileging of a group who appear 'the best' in a given society. Intellectualism involves the privilege of those who have intellectual knowledge or training. Since American society is radically anti-intellectual, I think they've almost achieved the status of opposite terms within America.

>>28122

First of all, I'm not American so I don't give a fuck about what you're doing over there. Even if intellectualism and elitism are opposites over there, it still doesn't justify the negative association with the word 'elitist'. After all, it's still those who at least "appear" to be the best who are the elite.

Second, elitism isn't simply about arbitrarily appearing to be the "best", but being the best on a relevant metric. It's essentially a synonym for meritocracy.

>>28124
Well, there's a slight difference.

Meritocracy implies a certain adherence to post-enlightenment metrics in regards to achievement, whereas elitism does not. You could call Tsarist Russia elitist, but you could certainly not call it a meritocracy.

And you've also highlighted the standing argument against Meritocracy, that the 'relevant metrics' are in themselves largely arbitrary. For instance, in feudal societies, the two most relevant metrics was the abillity to decapitate people, and the number of relatives with webbed fingers one might have - hardly metrics we would use today.

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Goddam you're all so smart :/

DICKS EVERYWHERE

He's a force of nature. Immune to the woes of the other inhabitants of Middle-Earth he has only the forest and his songs by which to define himself.

http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htm

Read this.

When i first learned they were making Lord of the Rings Movies, I was excited about seeing Tom Bombadil.

And then he wasn't in them.

Fuck you, Peter Jackson and company. Fuck you.

Tom Bombadil was my favorite.

Tom Bombadil is the reason I never finished reading LOTR.

How much time did you spend on this? Is this a first draft?

Be honest.

>>28107

Each one of these probably took me no more than a two minutes to write each lol. I just wrote it as it came to me. So I guess they are "first drafts".

(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)

>(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)

I refuse to read your brain-farts. Work hard and get them as perfect as you can. Read other poets so you have something to compare them to. By the time you show someone else your work you should feel terrified of them hating it because you've worked your ass off on it.

>>28106

#2 is the best one as is, in my opinion (which, regardless of what anyone tells you, is all the arts are based on- opinions). It goes more in-depth than the others (well, maybe not #3), which seem to be going for the "snapshot of a split second" approach, like in haiku.

Not that I dislike that approach, not at all, but you need some work on those if you want to take them that direction. Go find some haiku masters and study their techniques- how small of a snapshot do they get with the words they use? How descriptive is that snapshot? What about it do they focus on? Don't worry about the meter unless you want to. Focus on narrowing the snapshot your poem makes.

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I say this in every sci-fi recommendation thread, but seriously, Glasshouse by Charles Stross, it's honestly great.

Please don't read Asimov, he writes space opera/fantasy, not science fiction. Go for Egan, Niven, Heinlein, etc.

Revelation Space
by
Alaster Reynolds <3

>>28090 WILLIAM MY GOOD MAN I LOVE YOU. Alistair Reynolds is an amazing writer.

Forever War by Joe Haldeman

Shadow of the Torturer by Gene Wolfe

two books I enjoyed very much

That gentlemen makes me lul heartily.

I have no opinion but this comic is somewhat related I think
http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=242

That's the first of three Gorey installments so far.

>>28091
i just recently bought trainspotting, how perfect

>>28092

Depressing book, for sure. Great ending, though.

Death of a Salesman is a play, great book, incredibly depressing.

The Man with the Golden Arm

Nothing ever works out for that guy.

To answer both of your questions:
Slaughter-House Five.

Ham on Rye by Charles Bukowski.

Reminded me of my own antisocial, hate fueled, nihilist adolescence.

>>28005
I just finished rereading The Crying of Lot 49, loved it even more. I just started V. by Pynchon, coincidentally. Although I'm considering starting 2666 or something light like Huckleberry Finn for a change.

>>28062

I just watched this Yale lecture today--it was fairly interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dtqt0bXb4Y

When I'm finished with V. I'm going to read Rabbit, Run for something light.

Reading:
Foundation - Isaac Asimov

Just finished:
The Vagina Monologues - Eve Ensler
The Genius and the Goddess - Aldous Huxley

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
The Great Shark Hunt by Hunter S. Thompson
Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo

also going through a wonderful romantic poetry phase thanks to one of my classes.

Just finished Blood Meridian, started Melmoth the Wanderer last night, and every once in a while I'll read a couple chapters out of No by Boyd Rice.