hi /lit/ was woundering if ne one knows a good poem by a published poet?I have to make this big power point presentation for my lit class and i know nothing about poetry. There for, I dont know any bad ass poem's. If such a thing even exsists. well ne help would be very much appreciated Plus good Karma is a powerful thing!
hi /lit/ was woundering if ne one knows a good poem by a published poet?
I have to make this big power point presentation for my lit class and i know nothing about poetry. There for, I dont know any bad ass poem's. If such a thing even exsists.
well ne help would be very much appreciated Plus good Karma is a powerful thing!
>>28049fuck off this is a chan not english classanyways this thread is relevant to my interests, i need to read more poetry
>>28049fuck off this is a chan not english class
anyways this thread is relevant to my interests, i need to read more poetry
One word: Bukowski.
>>28085No, fuck you. Who cares if this is a chan? That doesn't mean we should all write like stupid 12 years old cunts you noncontributing zero. >>28049Damn right. Hey OP, do your own homework you down-syndrome troglodyte. FUCK I hate lazy, dumb people so much. "bad ass poem's"--go find some "bad ass bullet's" and end yourself.
>>28085
No, fuck you. Who cares if this is a chan? That doesn't mean we should all write like stupid 12 years old cunts you noncontributing zero.
>>28049Damn right.
Hey OP, do your own homework you down-syndrome troglodyte. FUCK I hate lazy, dumb people so much. "bad ass poem's"--go find some "bad ass bullet's" and end yourself.
>>28089Right on, brother, Amen.
>>28089you sound like such a bitter basement dweller lol
www.howdavidbecamenothing.com
Shinji approves.
That was shit.
I want to write about something.Anything.Someone give me a topic.Just the first thing that pops in your head... or maybe not.Philosoraptor extremely unrelated.
Here's a topic for you: discuss why the word "elitist" is used in a derogative fashion, and by extension the anti-intellectual sentiment that is so widespread these days.
>>28121Negro please, elitism isn't anything to do with intellectualism. Elitism involves the privileging of a group who appear 'the best' in a given society. Intellectualism involves the privilege of those who have intellectual knowledge or training. Since American society is radically anti-intellectual, I think they've almost achieved the status of opposite terms within America.
>>28122First of all, I'm not American so I don't give a fuck about what you're doing over there. Even if intellectualism and elitism are opposites over there, it still doesn't justify the negative association with the word 'elitist'. After all, it's still those who at least "appear" to be the best who are the elite. Second, elitism isn't simply about arbitrarily appearing to be the "best", but being the best on a relevant metric. It's essentially a synonym for meritocracy.
>>28122
First of all, I'm not American so I don't give a fuck about what you're doing over there. Even if intellectualism and elitism are opposites over there, it still doesn't justify the negative association with the word 'elitist'. After all, it's still those who at least "appear" to be the best who are the elite.
Second, elitism isn't simply about arbitrarily appearing to be the "best", but being the best on a relevant metric. It's essentially a synonym for meritocracy.
>>28124Well, there's a slight difference. Meritocracy implies a certain adherence to post-enlightenment metrics in regards to achievement, whereas elitism does not. You could call Tsarist Russia elitist, but you could certainly not call it a meritocracy.And you've also highlighted the standing argument against Meritocracy, that the 'relevant metrics' are in themselves largely arbitrary. For instance, in feudal societies, the two most relevant metrics was the abillity to decapitate people, and the number of relatives with webbed fingers one might have - hardly metrics we would use today. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>28124Well, there's a slight difference.
Meritocracy implies a certain adherence to post-enlightenment metrics in regards to achievement, whereas elitism does not. You could call Tsarist Russia elitist, but you could certainly not call it a meritocracy.
And you've also highlighted the standing argument against Meritocracy, that the 'relevant metrics' are in themselves largely arbitrary. For instance, in feudal societies, the two most relevant metrics was the abillity to decapitate people, and the number of relatives with webbed fingers one might have - hardly metrics we would use today.
Goddam you're all so smart :/
Bombadil Appreciation thread.Is he god?
Bombadil Appreciation thread.
Is he god?
DICKS EVERYWHERE
He's a force of nature. Immune to the woes of the other inhabitants of Middle-Earth he has only the forest and his songs by which to define himself.
http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htmRead this.
http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htm
Read this.
When i first learned they were making Lord of the Rings Movies, I was excited about seeing Tom Bombadil.And then he wasn't in them.Fuck you, Peter Jackson and company. Fuck you.Tom Bombadil was my favorite.
When i first learned they were making Lord of the Rings Movies, I was excited about seeing Tom Bombadil.
And then he wasn't in them.
Fuck you, Peter Jackson and company. Fuck you.
Tom Bombadil was my favorite.
Tom Bombadil is the reason I never finished reading LOTR.
Just simple questions..Has anyone read "Songs of Earth and Power" by Greg Bear? (Which is actually two books in one, slightly rewritten to continue the plot in one book. These books are "The Infinity Concerto" and "The Serpent Mage" bot by Greg Bear)I read it while I was in jail; I must say it's a very good book once you get past the editorial mistakes.If you read it, did you like it?If you liked it, do you have any suggestions for other good reads of the same genre?
These are my lame attempts at poetry. I'm new at this, ok. Dirty, Gritty, KinkyIt wastes my timeIt warps my mind;A black worn QWERTY Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
These are my lame attempts at poetry. I'm new at this, ok.
It wastes my timeIt warps my mind;A black worn QWERTY
How much time did you spend on this? Is this a first draft?Be honest.
How much time did you spend on this? Is this a first draft?
Be honest.
>>28107Each one of these probably took me no more than a two minutes to write each lol. I just wrote it as it came to me. So I guess they are "first drafts".(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)
>>28107
Each one of these probably took me no more than a two minutes to write each lol. I just wrote it as it came to me. So I guess they are "first drafts".
(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)
>(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)I refuse to read your brain-farts. Work hard and get them as perfect as you can. Read other poets so you have something to compare them to. By the time you show someone else your work you should feel terrified of them hating it because you've worked your ass off on it.
>(These are my first and only poems so far. I was sure I would suck at it, but I have to begin somewhere right? They get better as you go down the list don't they?)
I refuse to read your brain-farts. Work hard and get them as perfect as you can. Read other poets so you have something to compare them to. By the time you show someone else your work you should feel terrified of them hating it because you've worked your ass off on it.
>>28106#2 is the best one as is, in my opinion (which, regardless of what anyone tells you, is all the arts are based on- opinions). It goes more in-depth than the others (well, maybe not #3), which seem to be going for the "snapshot of a split second" approach, like in haiku. Not that I dislike that approach, not at all, but you need some work on those if you want to take them that direction. Go find some haiku masters and study their techniques- how small of a snapshot do they get with the words they use? How descriptive is that snapshot? What about it do they focus on? Don't worry about the meter unless you want to. Focus on narrowing the snapshot your poem makes. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>28106
#2 is the best one as is, in my opinion (which, regardless of what anyone tells you, is all the arts are based on- opinions). It goes more in-depth than the others (well, maybe not #3), which seem to be going for the "snapshot of a split second" approach, like in haiku.
Not that I dislike that approach, not at all, but you need some work on those if you want to take them that direction. Go find some haiku masters and study their techniques- how small of a snapshot do they get with the words they use? How descriptive is that snapshot? What about it do they focus on? Don't worry about the meter unless you want to. Focus on narrowing the snapshot your poem makes.
Can /lit/ recommend any good science fiction novels?
I say this in every sci-fi recommendation thread, but seriously, Glasshouse by Charles Stross, it's honestly great.
Please don't read Asimov, he writes space opera/fantasy, not science fiction. Go for Egan, Niven, Heinlein, etc.
Revelation SpacebyAlaster Reynolds <3
>>28090 WILLIAM MY GOOD MAN I LOVE YOU. Alistair Reynolds is an amazing writer.
Forever War by Joe HaldemanShadow of the Torturer by Gene Wolfetwo books I enjoyed very much
Forever War by Joe Haldeman
Shadow of the Torturer by Gene Wolfe
two books I enjoyed very much
What is /lit/'s opinion on Edward Gorey?
That gentlemen makes me lul heartily.
I have no opinion but this comic is somewhat related I thinkhttp://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=242That's the first of three Gorey installments so far.
I have no opinion but this comic is somewhat related I thinkhttp://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=242
That's the first of three Gorey installments so far.
you know how you can listen to a song and it can bring back memories and feelings? well have any of you you had the same happen but with books? the virgin suicides remind me of may/june of last year when i was the most depressed i'd ever been. it's the only book that makes me feel nostalgic, though.p.s. do any of you know of any depressing or sad books that are a good read? i'm an 18 year old girl if that means anything
you know how you can listen to a song and it can bring back memories and feelings? well have any of you you had the same happen but with books?
the virgin suicides remind me of may/june of last year when i was the most depressed i'd ever been. it's the only book that makes me feel nostalgic, though.
p.s. do any of you know of any depressing or sad books that are a good read? i'm an 18 year old girl if that means anything
>>28091i just recently bought trainspotting, how perfect
>>28092Depressing book, for sure. Great ending, though.Death of a Salesman is a play, great book, incredibly depressing.
>>28092
Depressing book, for sure. Great ending, though.
Death of a Salesman is a play, great book, incredibly depressing.
The Man with the Golden ArmNothing ever works out for that guy.
The Man with the Golden Arm
Nothing ever works out for that guy.
To answer both of your questions:Slaughter-House Five.
Ham on Rye by Charles Bukowski.Reminded me of my own antisocial, hate fueled, nihilist adolescence.
Ham on Rye by Charles Bukowski.
Reminded me of my own antisocial, hate fueled, nihilist adolescence.
This is who I really Am…The man you seeI used to beHas died with my last breathArise then yea My son is come The end was only a step
This is who I really Am…The man you seeI used to beHas died with my last breath
Arise then yea My son is come The end was only a step
What are you reading these days /lit/?
>>28005I just finished rereading The Crying of Lot 49, loved it even more. I just started V. by Pynchon, coincidentally. Although I'm considering starting 2666 or something light like Huckleberry Finn for a change.
>>28062I just watched this Yale lecture today--it was fairly interesting:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dtqt0bXb4YWhen I'm finished with V. I'm going to read Rabbit, Run for something light.
>>28062
I just watched this Yale lecture today--it was fairly interesting:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dtqt0bXb4Y
When I'm finished with V. I'm going to read Rabbit, Run for something light.
Reading:Foundation - Isaac AsimovJust finished:The Vagina Monologues - Eve EnslerThe Genius and the Goddess - Aldous Huxley
Reading:Foundation - Isaac Asimov
Just finished:The Vagina Monologues - Eve EnslerThe Genius and the Goddess - Aldous Huxley
Frankenstein by Mary ShelleyThe Great Shark Hunt by Hunter S. ThompsonAkira by Katsuhiro Otomoalso going through a wonderful romantic poetry phase thanks to one of my classes.
Frankenstein by Mary ShelleyThe Great Shark Hunt by Hunter S. ThompsonAkira by Katsuhiro Otomo
also going through a wonderful romantic poetry phase thanks to one of my classes.
Just finished Blood Meridian, started Melmoth the Wanderer last night, and every once in a while I'll read a couple chapters out of No by Boyd Rice.
After reading this, I realized that while it was mildly enjoyable as a whole, the character of Jay Gatsby was fucking fantastic. Anyone else read a relatively uninteresting book with one or a few very interesting characters?