hey /law/I've lurked your board for a while now on and off and I've noticed something come up quite a few times indirectly in some other threads. There are laws in place in some (or all, I'm not sure) states that mandate you must offer identification to an officer upon request. My question is simple. What if a person does not have an identification card. or simply isn't carrying it on them at the time. What would happen then? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
hey /law/
I've lurked your board for a while now on and off and I've noticed something come up quite a few times indirectly in some other threads.
There are laws in place in some (or all, I'm not sure) states that mandate you must offer identification to an officer upon request.
My question is simple. What if a person does not have an identification card. or simply isn't carrying it on them at the time. What would happen then?
>>9975 uhhh to where?! they send you to where they think you're from?
>>9975 uhhh to where?!
they send you to where they think you're from?
>>9980Well, I guess if you never said a thing they would just hold you forever...It is not a get out of jail free card....
>>9980Well, I guess if you never said a thing they would just hold you forever...
It is not a get out of jail free card....
>>9981 forced into slave labour?
>>9982Yeah, exactly...No you fucktard.....Sheeesh...They just keep you in prison until you tell them where you are from.
>>9982Yeah, exactly...
No you fucktard.....
Sheeesh...They just keep you in prison until you tell them where you are from.
>>9986 do you understand why i mentioned slave labour?Is there anyone with actual knowledge and less bitchyness?
>>9986 do you understand why i mentioned slave labour?
Is there anyone with actual knowledge and less bitchyness?
8.08.310 Possession of Marijuana.(a) It shall be unlawful and an offense for any person to be in possession of Marijuana in the City of Edmond unless pursuant to a valid prescription or order from a practitioner acting in the course of a professional practice.(b) For purposes of this Section:"Marijuana" shall mean all parts of the plant Cannibis sativa L., whether growing or not; the seeds thereof; the resin extracted from any part of such plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such plant, its seeds or resin, as defined particularly in 63 O.S. 1981, § 2-101(20)."Practitioner" shall mean a physician or other person, or pharmacy, hospital, laboratory or other institution as defined particularly in 63 O.S. 1981, § 2-101(28). (Ord. 1630, August 1985). Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
8.08.310 Possession of Marijuana.(a) It shall be unlawful and an offense for any person to be in possession of Marijuana in the City of Edmond unless pursuant to a valid prescription or order from a practitioner acting in the course of a professional practice.(b) For purposes of this Section:"Marijuana" shall mean all parts of the plant Cannibis sativa L., whether growing or not; the seeds thereof; the resin extracted from any part of such plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture or preparation of such plant, its seeds or resin, as defined particularly in 63 O.S. 1981, § 2-101(20)."Practitioner" shall mean a physician or other person, or pharmacy, hospital, laboratory or other institution as defined particularly in 63 O.S. 1981, § 2-101(28). (Ord. 1630, August 1985).
It's illegal. Marijuana is illegal until federal law changes.Federal law>state law>local law
>>9916That's where it gets sticky. How often do you get arrested by federal authorities? City officials could theoretically use any of the set (but probably would use the city in this case, as it means the most funds directly to them). If you got arrested by the Highway Patrol or something, it might go either way to state or city, depending on whether you had a valid prescription and where exactly you got arrested. And if your small time smoker got hit by a federal official such as a marshall or feebz, oh lawd have mercy.Also, most prescriptions are not instant get out of jail free cards. The Dr or pharmacy won't give you smokez. But if you're in a locale where medicinal use is accepted, and a law enforcement officer who respects that checks you out, you might just be okay. Or they could be assholes and bump it up the chain. It really depends on who it is and what kind of day it's been for them. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>9916That's where it gets sticky. How often do you get arrested by federal authorities? City officials could theoretically use any of the set (but probably would use the city in this case, as it means the most funds directly to them). If you got arrested by the Highway Patrol or something, it might go either way to state or city, depending on whether you had a valid prescription and where exactly you got arrested. And if your small time smoker got hit by a federal official such as a marshall or feebz, oh lawd have mercy.
Also, most prescriptions are not instant get out of jail free cards. The Dr or pharmacy won't give you smokez. But if you're in a locale where medicinal use is accepted, and a law enforcement officer who respects that checks you out, you might just be okay. Or they could be assholes and bump it up the chain. It really depends on who it is and what kind of day it's been for them.
OP here... I'm a resident of the city of Edmond.I must not have been clear... If medicinal marijuana is unattainable here could I go to say california, colorado or any other medicinally legal state to be prescribed and receive marijuana?
OP here... I'm a resident of the city of Edmond.
I must not have been clear... If medicinal marijuana is unattainable here could I go to say california, colorado or any other medicinally legal state to be prescribed and receive marijuana?
>>9922Nope. The card is only valid where you got it if my understanding is correct. I believe there was a case about this a while ago where someone was arrested with pot because she travelled across state lines to see a friend.>>9918DEA was raiding dispensaries a while ago. Obama said he stopped it. They didn't.
Obama says a lot... Okay so its illegal etc etcWhat is the point in it being 'legal' in my town obv. a dr. wont prescribe me... I mean one that wants to keep their license anyway and even then there is no dispensary here... within like 800000000 miles.
Obama says a lot...
Okay so its illegal etc etc
What is the point in it being 'legal' in my town obv. a dr. wont prescribe me... I mean one that wants to keep their license anyway and even then there is no dispensary here... within like 800000000 miles.
Hey /law/.Me and a friend are students in the UK. We recently found out that if you're married/civil partnership you qualify as an independent student, meaning when it comes to government financial bursaries, the amount you recieve is dependent on the income of you and your spouse, rather then that of your parents.As neither of us have jobs (full time students), we'd be entitled to the maximum possible bursary (£2,900 a year) if we get married to each other, which we're currently considering. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hey /law/.
Me and a friend are students in the UK. We recently found out that if you're married/civil partnership you qualify as an independent student, meaning when it comes to government financial bursaries, the amount you recieve is dependent on the income of you and your spouse, rather then that of your parents.
As neither of us have jobs (full time students), we'd be entitled to the maximum possible bursary (£2,900 a year) if we get married to each other, which we're currently considering.
>>9959Actually there a LOT morally reprehensible about this. Gays fought very hard to get their rights, and what you plan on doing was one of the arguments against giving them rights. And again, people have been prosecuted for getting married under false pretenses. And they are cracking down on it.Let me put it this way.... Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>9959
Actually there a LOT morally reprehensible about this. Gays fought very hard to get their rights, and what you plan on doing was one of the arguments against giving them rights.
And again, people have been prosecuted for getting married under false pretenses. And they are cracking down on it.
Let me put it this way....
>>9955How would it not be a valid marriage? In th UK the only thing you need to be to get married is to be over 18, not be blood-relatives and both conscent.You aren't legally obliged to be in love - hundred and hundreds of people are married without being in love.>>9950Sorry, not true :(
>>9955How would it not be a valid marriage? In th UK the only thing you need to be to get married is to be over 18, not be blood-relatives and both conscent.
You aren't legally obliged to be in love - hundred and hundreds of people are married without being in love.
>>9950Sorry, not true :(
>>9962>people have been prosecuted for getting married under false pretenses. And they are cracking down on it.Can you cite any examples of this?Also, what law could they prosecute on? I've yet to find any law which would make this illegal - the only laws relating to marriage fraud I've seen specifically deal with immigration. And I've yet to find anything that states you can't marry for financial reasons or just because you want to. I've met other people who've done this, and they haven't had any problems.
>>9962
>people have been prosecuted for getting married under false pretenses. And they are cracking down on it.
Can you cite any examples of this?
Also, what law could they prosecute on? I've yet to find any law which would make this illegal - the only laws relating to marriage fraud I've seen specifically deal with immigration. And I've yet to find anything that states you can't marry for financial reasons or just because you want to. I've met other people who've done this, and they haven't had any problems.
>>9968Wow, you are just not bright.Let me guess you got into uni because mummy and daddy were alumni?First off - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/sep/23/ukcrime.jamiewilsonSecondly, you know jack shit about the legal system. They don't need a specific law that says, "You can't get fake gay married hurrr durr..." They would PROSECUTE you under the FRAUD laws. The ones that punish people for trying to scam the state out of money. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>9968Wow, you are just not bright.
Let me guess you got into uni because mummy and daddy were alumni?
First off - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/sep/23/ukcrime.jamiewilson
Secondly, you know jack shit about the legal system. They don't need a specific law that says, "You can't get fake gay married hurrr durr..." They would PROSECUTE you under the FRAUD laws. The ones that punish people for trying to scam the state out of money.
My opinion Its 'morally' wrong, BUT I do believe in the greater good and that is you cant afford school so you are willing to do anything... Divorce is likely and bad for your creditYour 'husband' could totally rip you off of anything..... and you can't do anything about it b/c you would be busted for fraud
My opinion
This is my second time coming to a marijuana themed chan for law advice tonight, but do you think if I hit a new clean bong filled with salvia in a public park i could be arrested for public intoxication? I'd probably attract some attention but is it an arrestable offense?Picture kind of related if I reach nirvana while tripping and I see Krishna in the body of Kanye West.
This is my second time coming to a marijuana themed chan for law advice tonight, but do you think if I hit a new clean bong filled with salvia in a public park i could be arrested for public intoxication? I'd probably attract some attention but is it an arrestable offense?
Picture kind of related if I reach nirvana while tripping and I see Krishna in the body of Kanye West.
other than public intoxication I dont think they could do much other than fuck with you. the cops will most likely search the shit out of you and hold you for as long as possible for doing something so stupid.Although i'm not sure whether a bong counts as drug paraphernalia when used with a legal substance other than tobacco
other than public intoxication I dont think they could do much other than fuck with you. the cops will most likely search the shit out of you and hold you for as long as possible for doing something so stupid.
Although i'm not sure whether a bong counts as drug paraphernalia when used with a legal substance other than tobacco
you shouldnt use salvia in such a setting anyway
/law/, cops scare the fuck out of me. I've come to just sort of think of them as all assholes(I don't mean to sound like a 90's gangster here and all, but yeah).I mean, they can search whatever the fuck they want, they're essentially above the law, and they can ruin your life with just one incident.Do you guys have anything good you could tell me, that I'm wrong about them all being pigs? any cases or whatever? I'm feeling bad, man
/law/, cops scare the fuck out of me. I've come to just sort of think of them as all assholes(I don't mean to sound like a 90's gangster here and all, but yeah).I mean, they can search whatever the fuck they want, they're essentially above the law, and they can ruin your life with just one incident.
Do you guys have anything good you could tell me, that I'm wrong about them all being pigs? any cases or whatever? I'm feeling bad, man
sadly a lot of people become cops for all the wrong reasons but their are a few cool cops out there and yes i've had my fair share of asshole cops even some customs agents who thought i was a drug smuggler
one time some special agent guy pulled me and my friend over, and asked if we had any guns on us. we said no and he ask us if we had 'anything' so we showed him an ounce of weed we had in the car and he just said 'no no, im looking for guns, you guys get out of here'.another time, me and my buddy get pulled over for a headlight being out. the car smelled like weed so they searched it, found a quarter of weed and my friends gear for shooting up. gave him a citation, took the weed and needles and let us leave.not all cops are bad, but a lot are.
one time some special agent guy pulled me and my friend over, and asked if we had any guns on us. we said no and he ask us if we had 'anything' so we showed him an ounce of weed we had in the car and he just said 'no no, im looking for guns, you guys get out of here'.
another time, me and my buddy get pulled over for a headlight being out. the car smelled like weed so they searched it, found a quarter of weed and my friends gear for shooting up. gave him a citation, took the weed and needles and let us leave.
not all cops are bad, but a lot are.
/law/, I'm on the verge of murdering everyone in memorial hospital in TN. my wife and i rushed to the emergency room when she went into labor, and we were sentto a room immediately. however, no fucking doctor showed up no matter how loud we yelled or how manytimes we asked. the nurses delivered my daughter, but the umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck.they attempted to rescusitate her for 15 minutes, and were succesful, but now she had little brain activity, is paralyzed from the waist down, and they say she hasless than a week to live. wtf can i do to make these fuckers hurt as much as i do?
>>9877Oh yeah...It's like a protection thing for their employees right?
>>9877
Oh yeah...It's like a protection thing for their employees right?
>>9878Yeah just like as a perk of a job no one can sue you for putting rat poison in the bread if you're on the job.Probably a bad example as you could be prosecuted under criminal law and it probably wouldn't cover that anyway.
>>9878Yeah just like as a perk of a job no one can sue you for putting rat poison in the bread if you're on the job.
Probably a bad example as you could be prosecuted under criminal law and it probably wouldn't cover that anyway.
Op, if your talkin bout the one in chattanooga the same fucking thing happened to my sister. She got a really good lawyer out of crossville and fucked their shit up
If OP is still around, what was the time frame for all of this happening? Were you waiting around for an hour before anyone could get to you? How long did it take to get the cord off?And for any legal experts, would any of this affect his case?
If OP is still around, what was the time frame for all of this happening? Were you waiting around for an hour before anyone could get to you? How long did it take to get the cord off?
And for any legal experts, would any of this affect his case?
>>9979Not a legal expert but obviously. If you get in and one second later the incident is done it's going to be very hard to argue you didn't access service in a reasonable time.
my girl got caught violating parole at my house, a cop came in my room during the ordeal and i had remnants of shit but he didnt say anything. ran my id, took said female and they left without telling us anything (besides a whole bunch of verbal abuse)could they come back with a warrant for noticing shit like that?
my girl got caught violating parole at my house, a cop came in my room during the ordeal and i had remnants of shit but he didnt say anything. ran my id, took said female and they left without telling us anything (besides a whole bunch of verbal abuse)
could they come back with a warrant for noticing shit like that?
Not likely. If they see it, they can search then and there. He just didn't care. I'd still lay low for a while just to be safe.
Can I, a Wisconsin resident, buy a handgun in Minnesota? Do I need to do any extra paperwork, or pay for additional paperwork?
You may purchase the gun in Wisconsin, but to take ownership of it you must have it shipped to someone who holds an FFL in your home state. Try to find a store with a nominal transfer fee, or better, one that doesn't charge anything for transfers.
Er, got the names of the states wrong, but you understand what I meant, right?
>>9957right, buy it, have it shipped to a party with a FFL, then have them ship it to me.
Someone on /psy/ told me to come ask here. Despite the sketchiness, would going up to a person and asking them if they're holding any psychedelics on them be legal?
Posted this on /weed/ but they said try here too.So a few weeks ago i was at a park with my girlfriend. I had stupidly locked my keys in my car, so I called my dad and asked if he would bring me the spare. About 15 minutes later my dad shows, drops off the key, leaves. My girlfriend and I get into my car and just as I'm about to leave a cop pulls up. She walked to my car and asked what I was doing at the park so late. I explained my story and told her my dad had just left and i was about to leave. She was suspicious so she asked for my license. I gave it to her and she stepped away to use the radio. My first thought was 'fuck, I'm going to jail if she looks in my car I'm 18' so granted this entire time i may have seemed a little paranoid. I had my weed hidden under my seat and my grinder upside down in my cup holder. Hidden from view. She asks me to step out, we walk behind the car, she pats me down, looks in my pockets. Finds nothing except the spare key so i remind her again why I'm here, hoping she'd give up her hunt to find any contraband I might have had. She tells me to stay put and walks to the passenger side window to talk to my girlfriend. Asking her questions and she told the cop exactly what happened. She ended up searching her purse, finding nothing. She asks to search my vehicle and i reply 'I wont give you consent without a warrant' she tells me something about going to get a warrant and ends up doing it anyway. Finds the pot and grinder. I feel like my rights have been shit on. Is there anything i can do to fight this? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Posted this on /weed/ but they said try here too.
So a few weeks ago i was at a park with my girlfriend. I had stupidly locked my keys in my car, so I called my dad and asked if he would bring me the spare. About 15 minutes later my dad shows, drops off the key, leaves. My girlfriend and I get into my car and just as I'm about to leave a cop pulls up. She walked to my car and asked what I was doing at the park so late. I explained my story and told her my dad had just left and i was about to leave. She was suspicious so she asked for my license. I gave it to her and she stepped away to use the radio. My first thought was 'fuck, I'm going to jail if she looks in my car I'm 18' so granted this entire time i may have seemed a little paranoid. I had my weed hidden under my seat and my grinder upside down in my cup holder. Hidden from view. She asks me to step out, we walk behind the car, she pats me down, looks in my pockets. Finds nothing except the spare key so i remind her again why I'm here, hoping she'd give up her hunt to find any contraband I might have had. She tells me to stay put and walks to the passenger side window to talk to my girlfriend. Asking her questions and she told the cop exactly what happened. She ended up searching her purse, finding nothing. She asks to search my vehicle and i reply 'I wont give you consent without a warrant' she tells me something about going to get a warrant and ends up doing it anyway. Finds the pot and grinder. I feel like my rights have been shit on. Is there anything i can do to fight this?
Sorry i didnt mean for it to post like that. Dunno why it did
What did she give as probable cause? The fact that they got a warrant usually means you are fucked. Unless there was no probable cause mentioned.Also, ummmm....How did she get IN the car?
What did she give as probable cause? The fact that they got a warrant usually means you are fucked. Unless there was no probable cause mentioned.
Also, ummmm....How did she get IN the car?
So a few weeks ago i was at a park with my girlfriend. I had stupidly locked my keys in my car, so I called my dad and asked if he would bring me the spare. About 15 minutes later my dad shows, drops off the key, leaves. My girlfriend and I get into my car and just as I'm about to leave a cop pulls up. She walked to my car and asked what I was doing at the park so late. I explained my story and told her my dad had just left and i was about to leave. She was suspicious so she asked for my license. I gave it to her and she stepped away to use the radio. My first thought was 'fuck, I'm going to jail if she looks in my car I'm 18' so granted this entire time i may have seemed a little paranoid. I had my weed hidden under my seat and my grinder upside down in my cup holder. Hidden from view. She asks me to step out, we walk behind the car, she pats me down, looks in my pockets. Finds nothing except the spare key so i remind her again why I'm here, hoping she'd give up her hunt to find any contraband I might have had. She tells me to stay put and walks to the passenger side window to talk to my girlfriend. Asking her questions and she told the cop exactly what happened. She ended up searching her purse, finding nothing. She asks to search my vehicle and i reply 'I wont give you consent without a warrant' she tells me something about going to get a warrant and ends up doing it anyway. Finds the pot and grinder. I feel like my rights have been shit on. Is there anything i can do to fight this? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Hi /law/, I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I have to get this thought out before I forget it. How is it legal for daylight savings time to take place? How can the government legally force all businesses and everything to start an hour earlier? I don't like having one less hour of sleep before I go to college at 11am. They shouldn't be able to wake me up an hour earlier than normal. That extra hour makes the difference. Don't give me any of that "you should go to bed earlier" logical talk either. You know how psychologically it's harder to go to bed earlier than usual. A lot of people like to watch late shows. Many people plan to do homework for the nighttime too.
Hi /law/,
I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I have to get this thought out before I forget it. How is it legal for daylight savings time to take place? How can the government legally force all businesses and everything to start an hour earlier? I don't like having one less hour of sleep before I go to college at 11am. They shouldn't be able to wake me up an hour earlier than normal. That extra hour makes the difference.
Don't give me any of that "you should go to bed earlier" logical talk either. You know how psychologically it's harder to go to bed earlier than usual. A lot of people like to watch late shows. Many people plan to do homework for the nighttime too.
By the way, in case it wasn't clear, it's harder to fall asleep at night for me for a long time. I've been awake in bed until 1:30 now instead of 12:30. My brain is still sending the signal for me to go to bed at the usual time at night, even though i wake up an hour earlier.
Wiki says:The law does not require that all states observe DST. Individual states may exempt themselves from DST and observe standard time year-round by passing a state law, provided:* if the state lies entirely within a time zone, that the exemption apply statewide, or* if the state is divided by a time zone boundary, that the exemption apply statewide or to the entire part of the state on one side of the boundary. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Wiki says:
The law does not require that all states observe DST. Individual states may exempt themselves from DST and observe standard time year-round by passing a state law, provided:
* if the state lies entirely within a time zone, that the exemption apply statewide, or* if the state is divided by a time zone boundary, that the exemption apply statewide or to the entire part of the state on one side of the boundary.
The states shouldn't have the right either. Everyone pretty much is forced to change. If you have no responsibilities you're not affected, but that's not a lot of people.
One word -Arizona.
One word -
Arizona.
Hey /law/ so i'm sure you get this all the time, but i just wanted to know, if i were to put some hash in my suitcase, flyin from portugal to the US, am i likely to get caught/what would happen if i was caught? (a friend of mine over in america really wants to try some hash so i'm gonna bring like 3 or 4 spliffs worth over for him as a present ha) thanks.
bump D:
i have no idea what would happen if you get caught.. i also don't know what the chances are of you getting caught are. but i also recently traveled across the US and thought "i could probably get away with keeping a little baggie in my bra.." its not like they strip search you or anything. i would just pray they are no drug sniffing dogs.. and try to look as cool as you can lol. pic unrelated but awesome
>>9972 goddamn, indeed that is awesome, especially the face, looks like fractals. is that mask? or just some photoshop shit to hide your identity? (like a superhero)
They have dogs that sniff luggage regularly. You get caught, you go to PRISON.Federal prison.The rapey kind.Just not worth it.
They have dogs that sniff luggage regularly. You get caught, you go to PRISON.
Federal prison.
The rapey kind.
Just not worth it.
